Abysmal Fuel Mileage

[BassRanger]

E15 is only 5% less energy dense than Pure gas. E10 is 3% less. The effect it has on fuel economy is often exaggerated.

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[that408guy]

How do you cfange to sports mode?

Drop it all the way down to the S gear.

 

[Apples]

Now wait a moment. Some Premium blends DO NOT contain ethanol. The pump doesn't say it will, but says it can contain up to 10%. As I noted previously, ethanol reduces the BTU output when mixed with gasoline. Therefore, it stands to reason, that 87 Octane (assuming it does contain ethanol which almost all do), then switching to a less percentage of ethanol by using Premium, will indeed increase fuel mileage.

 

[Okinawa Joe]

YUP! That is exactly right.
It's a "feel good" measure.

Makes them hippies feel good because there are less emissions in a gallon of gas. But they neglect to consider it takes more gallons of gas to move the same distance now and because you are spending more gallons of gas, your emissions are the same to worse. Ethanol is the biggest scam going. And at a time when the world needs food, we are busy jamming it in our gas tanks so the hippies can pat themselves on the back.

 

[Okinawa Joe]

Exactly I can get ethanol free gas near me, mileage is always 2-3 mpg better

 

[Okinawa Joe]

Fantastic highway trip mileage! I just did a trip to CT From VA, a total of 530 miles. I fueled up in Southbury CT, and drove to Winchester VA to fuel up before the last leg of my trip, I had 1/4 tank of fuel left. My truck took 15 gallons of gas, I had travelled 417 miles on that fuel. Checking the math on my phone revealed I had average 27.8 mpg on my return trip. AMAZING!
My truck is a 2022 XLT, FX4 with the 18" Hankook all terrain tires. I just hit 4000 miles on the odometer. Typically my dash mpg calculator indicated from 25 to 30 mpg depending on the grade of the road, I kept my speed on cruise control around 72 mph the entire trip, AC on. Each fuel stop I reset trip odometer and avg fuel reading. My tires are inflated 32 psi front, 34 psi rear.
My fuel, Shell 87 octane.

I'm convinced the Cyber Orange paint is key, lol

 

[9zero1790]

How do you cfange to sports mode?

pull gear shifter down to where it has an S not D.

 

[BassRanger]

Now wait a moment. Some Premium blends DO NOT contain ethanol. The pump doesn't say it will, but says it can contain up to 10%. As I noted previously, ethanol reduces the BTU output when mixed with gasoline. Therefore, it stands to reason, that 87 Octane (assuming it does contain ethanol which almost all do), then switching to a less percentage of ethanol by using Premium, will indeed increase fuel mileage.

Unless you are at an ethanol free station, you can pretty much rest assured that the premium has ethanol in it as it is one main octane boosters used in modern fuel.

 

[9zero1790]

Ranger Pride: It is interesting to note, that ethanol blends reduce overall efficiency. For example, E15 blends, lower efficiency by 35% (total BTUs per gallon). And arguably, ethanol does increase the octane rating. However, the octane boost from MTBE (methyl tertiary-butyl ether) is several times that of ethanol, and is a whole lot less expensive. We can thank big agribusiness' lobbyists for ethanol's wide-spread use.

not going against anyone's claims etc but i have wondered how e tunes are so popular and make more power in the mustangs. i wonder if a ranger ethanol tune is possible.

 

[Okinawa Joe]

not going against anyone's claims etc but i have wondered how e tunes are so popular and make more power in the mustangs. i wonder if a ranger ethanol tune is possible.

Cobb may have a Ranger tune, their Focus ST tune was awesome, I picked up power and mileage.

 

[Langwilliams]

E85 is like 104 octane BUT you have to burn a lot more of it. A supercharged 5.0 I know of got around 150 more peak HP on the E85 tune than on the 93 tune but he burned about 40% more.

 

[JasonTremor]

not going against anyone's claims etc but i have wondered how e tunes are so popular and make more power in the mustangs. i wonder if a ranger ethanol tune is possible.

Most of what you likely see are E85 calibrations for the mustang. Basically the higher ethanol content, the more spark timing you can run and this the more power you make. It does take a higher volume of e85 to do this though, so mpg of e85 will be less than running e10 for example.

E85 allows you to run more boost in conjunction with more spark timing in turbo charged and supercharged setups to produce more power with more fuel. Effectively, e85 is the rough equivalent to 110ish octane gasoline. Edit:105ish octane.

 

[Apples]

There is a Ranger using E85 on YouTube, making 500+. So the answer is yes, but you have to toss a lot of money to get there. Some of the stuff, is bigger turbo, intercooler, pipes, exhaust, high volume fuel pump, fuel line changes, and about 100 hours of dyno time.

Without doing any internals, using a stock fuel pump, you can get to about 400 HP, for about $5K or so. I'm almost there, but any more and I'd be worried about the 10R80 and the rear end gearing.

 

[9zero1790]

Most of what you likely see are E85 calibrations for the mustang. Basically the higher ethanol content, the more spark timing you can run and this the more power you make. It does take a higher volume of e85 to do this though, so mpg of e85 will be less than running e10 for example.

E85 allows you to run more boost in conjunction with more spark timing in turbo charged and supercharged setups to produce more power with more fuel. Effectively, e85 is the rough equivalent to 110ish octane gasoline. Edit:105ish octane.

thank you

 

[9zero1790]

There is a Ranger using E85 on YouTube, making 500+. So the answer is yes, but you have to toss a lot of money to get there. Some of the stuff, is bigger turbo, intercooler, pipes, exhaust, high volume fuel pump, fuel line changes, and about 100 hours of dyno time.

Without doing any internals, using a stock fuel pump, you can get to about 400 HP, for about $5K or so. I'm almost there, but any more and I'd be worried about the 10R80 and the rear end gearing.

thank you, wow 400 is a lot without out going to crazy. That is much more than i would expect from the 2.3!

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