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The transmission pan needs to be swapped out with a new one when doing filter changes. Gasket carryover if reusable. That’s Fords repair procedure
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I can't stand paying dealers for simple things and waiting days to get my truck back.

My plan is to replace the fluid myself at 30k and add a PPE Power transmission pan (with drain) and B&M Dipstick. Then I can easily check and replace the trans fluid forever.

part numbers on both items ?
 

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Went to the dealer for an oil change today. Asked about checking the transmission fluid level. I’m not having any problems. Just curious after reading some of the posts here. Said they would be happy to but it would be $75 dollars on top of the oil change price. When I questioned him he said it is because it is sealed, there’s no dipstick, and there is a panel in the way that has to be removed. $75!!!!!! Is it just me or does this seem ridiculous to anyone else?

i passed in the opportunity for them to take more of my money.
It amazes me how ALL automakers cheapen their products to let the "bean counters" reign supreme.

I can only imagine what feature/component on a modern vehicle they might eliminate next
 


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It amazes me how ALL automakers cheapen their products to let the "bean counters" reign supreme.

I can only imagine what feature/component on a modern vehicle they might eliminate next
Yeah, before we know it, EV's will have a tag "Batteries not included"
 

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I decided to check my transmission fluid level today. Followed the process both at cold start for cold level curiosity as well as hot to see the delta. I had kevlar heat sleeves for my forearms and heat resistant gloves and you absolutely need those. I also had access to a lift, which I also recommend highly. I didn't take pics as I was focused on not burning myself.

My 21 Ranger has the dipstick numbered 1 thru 6. Hot fluid level is supposed to be between 5 and 6.

Cold level didn't even show on the dipstick (90 ish degrees Fahrenheit) which had me kinda worried, but I proceeded to the drive cycle to get the trans up to temperature to let the fluid expand. The specs say to check the fluid when the trans fluid temp is between 206 and 215 degrees Fahrenheit. I could only manage to get it to 193 and it never went over that. Went through the gears again following process and back on the lift it went. Fluid was exactly on 5 which is perfect. Anything more would technically be overfilled.

As a side note: Out of curiosity yesterday, I checked the fluid level with engine off just to see what the level was at. Trans temp was 143 degrees Fahrenheit at the time. Fluid was at the 1 on the dipstick.

Picture of dipstick type attached for reference.

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I decided to check my transmission fluid level today. Followed the process both at cold start for cold level curiosity as well as hot to see the delta. I had kevlar heat sleeves for my forearms and heat resistant gloves and you absolutely need those. I also had access to a lift, which I also recommend highly. I didn't take pics as I was focused on not burning myself.

My 21 Ranger has the dipstick numbered 1 thru 6. Hot fluid level is supposed to be between 5 and 6.

Cold level didn't even show on the dipstick (90 ish degrees Fahrenheit) which had me kinda worried, but I proceeded to the drive cycle to get the trans up to temperature to let the fluid expand. The specs say to check the fluid when the trans fluid temp is between 206 and 215 degrees Fahrenheit. I could only manage to get it to 193 and it never went over that. Went through the gears again following process and back on the lift it went. Fluid was exactly on 5 which is perfect. Anything more would technically be overfilled.

As a side note: Out of curiosity yesterday, I checked the fluid level with engine off just to see what the level was at. Trans temp was 143 degrees Fahrenheit at the time. Fluid was at the 1 on the dipstick.

Picture of dipstick type attached for reference.

Screenshot_20220627-213728.png
You checked the fluid level with engine off? I thought it has to be on or fluid would flow out the dipstick hole?
 

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You checked the fluid level with engine off? I thought it has to be on or fluid would flow out the dipstick hole?
Yes, engine off after sitting overnight and the fluid was 70 degrees. It came just above the hashed area on the dipstick, but didn't run out on mine.
 

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I opened the cap cautiously thinking it might run out, but it didn't. To get the trans temp, I just hooked up my SCT Live Link logging software and did a key on/no start log to grab the trans temp.
 

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Yes, engine off after sitting overnight and the fluid was 70 degrees. It came just above the hashed area on the dipstick, but didn't run out on mine.
Good to know...my trans has started exhibiting symtoms of low fluid...a few days ago, after pulling out of my garage driving off slowly, the trans went from 1st what felt like neutral...then bang into second...did this until the trans warmed up...today, it's worse...not sure where the fluid went as there's no leak...I just past 93K miles....going to check the level and see if it's even registering on the dip stick...
 

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Good to know...my trans has started exhibiting symtoms of low fluid...a few days ago, after pulling out of my garage driving off slowly, the trans went from 1st what felt like neutral...then bang into second...did this until the trans warmed up...today, it's worse...not sure where the fluid went as there's no leak...I just past 93K miles....going to check the level and see if it's even registering on the dip stick...
I only checked mine because after sitting overnight, I would start it and immediately put it in reverse only to find it took a few seconds for it to start moving. I added a picture here to note the level after being off overnight and the fluid level checked with engine off and the 70 degree fluid temp.

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I only checked mine because after sitting overnight, I would start it and immediately put it in reverse only to find it took a few seconds for it to start moving. I added a picture here to note the level after being off overnight and the fluid level checked with engine off and the 70 degree fluid temp.

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Mine used to do that too...put in R and took a moment to engage...

What does the blue line mean? Isn't that the upper limit?
 

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Mine used to do that too...put in R and took a moment to engage...

What does the blue line mean? Isn't that the upper limit?
That was where the fluid level was after sitting overnight when I checked the fluid level without starting engine.
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