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[underwhelmed]

As mentioned, like other LEDs, if the LED fails, you need to replace the whole like. I know of the LED driving lights on my RS fails, it's the same thing, replace the whole light and housing.

@underwhelmed have you already have LED fogs to go with those headlights?

I do not, but now that you mention it I’ll have to look into that ?

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[Colo_Ranger]

Hmmm....

$420 for full LED headlights?

Double Hmmmm....

Edit: Hmmm indeed.

I ordered them.

that escalated quickly

 

[ControlNode]

FedEx has shown to have had my headlight package in their possession in Chino, CA for 2 days, and no ET for delivery yet, normally it's faster than that.

 

[underwhelmed]

Mine did the same, but updated yesterday to next Tuesday delivery.

 

[ControlNode]

Looking more at the lights, looks like they may need a mod to work as I want. Pin-6 (DRL) is empty on their image of the plugs. If anyone already has worked out the wiring of the light assembly that would be great, as it looks right now, the DRL only works with the parking lights (based on F150 owners and mods they've made to get DRL without parking lights). In my mind LED DRL that close to the turn signal should disable, I guess the switchback does that, but I still don't want to have to power on the parking lights for the whole truck just to get the DRLs on, I would rather they work a little more like the OE DRLs. I think if the wires for the LED DRL/switchbacks are split from the parking light power outside of the housing I should be able to add the 6-pin and connect the LED to that lead.

Or am I thinking too far ahead? Does the light have internal logic that if the low beam is on without parking lights the DRL is activated instead of the low beam LED?

Edit, I found this: 111632A_111633A_(Steps 1-6)_wBleed.pdf Looks like a lot of the logic may be outside the light, so would be nice to get it working without going into the housing. I wish they set up this kit to better work with LED and halogen light replacement, but I guess those with LED already and looking for upgraded lights is a very small market.

 

[ControlNode]

Well, I ordered a LUX meter since I can't find any spec with these lights, I'll share what I see from them later. I've started a spreadsheet for comparison based on data from Morimoto's YT video.

Light	Source	Low beam	pattern note	high beam	pattern note
Stock halogen	Morimoto	380		600
Stock halogen	Myself	795		1600
Stock LED	Morimoto	560		930	odd pattern
Morimoto XB	Morimoto	760		1050	wide
Anzo LED	Myself	726	wide	1060

 

[ControlNode]

After talking with Anzo sounds like I'll be making a "between the truck and light" logic update to get the DRLs working more in line with how I expect them to work, that being when the truck signals for DRLs, not just with parking lights. Initial thought is a couple of relays triggered by the park light and DRL wires from the trucks side that will route a separate +12V source (maybe tapped into the +12V Anzo's kit already brings to the light area) to the park light wire of the input of their harness for box. May need to add resistors to make the BCM happy if it doesn't like the loads from the relays, but will look into that more later. I don't see why they didn't put this in the lights themselves, I don't see 4 relays (or transistors) and maybe resistors costing too much and then they could sell to OE LED and Halogen models with a single SKU, and it would at least fully seal the connector going to the truck's OE headlight plug. Speaking of the lack of sealing, they said I would not void any warranty on the lights by sealing those holes where the missing wires are on the connectors.

I'm still confused on why Anzo doesn't do something like this on their own, really, with that little external box they already have with the lights, just an update to that and replacing OE LED would be an option, the light assembly and its internal logic would not need any change.

And of course, that all requires the BCM update to call for DRLs on the circuit the Lariat uses instead of on the low beam light.

 

[Colo_Ranger]

I'm not following what the problem is and what you're trying to accomplish. Can you simplify it?

 

[Dr_Strangelove]

Apologize to speak for you @ControlNode ,

@Colo_Ranger - I understand the issue to be; the DRL will turn from white to amber color when the signal is activated/blinking, and ControlNode would prefer that the DRL turn off while the signal blinks. With the wiring in these headlights OE that is not possible without a mod.

The reason for this was the proximity of the DRL to the signal flasher on this headlight design - which I can certainly see the logic for. Folks don't pay attention...

 

[ControlNode]

I'm not following what the problem is and what you're trying to accomplish. Can you simplify it?

Apologize to speak for you @ControlNode ,

@Colo_Ranger - I understand the issue to be; the DRL will turn from white to amber color when the signal is activated/blinking, and ControlNode would prefer that the DRL turn off while the signal blinks. With the wiring in these headlights OE that is not possible without a mod.

The reason for this was the proximity of the DRL to the signal flasher on this headlight design - which I can certainly see the logic for. Folks don't pay attention...

Thanks for trying, but no, the switchback mode of the DRLs means that the DRL of the active signal light will turn off already. No, I wanted the DRLs to function without the need for all the parking lights on the truck to be on, same as it is stock (low beam on halogen or DRL LED on LED light package).

My goal is that if the truck is requesting for DRL or Parking lights, the light assembly illuminates the DRLs. A likely positive side effect is that if the parking lights are off and the BCM is programmed to keep the DRL off for x seconds after the signal light stops, it would then follow that logic, similar to what I see with my Focus that has LED DRLs.

 

[ControlNode]

Disregard my old post, not relevant.

I was playing around on a circuit site, this simple 2 relay logic would be an idea that would allow the BCM to stay in halogen light mode, and redirect the low beam signal (upper switch and LED) to the parking light circuit (lower switch and LED) when the truck is not also requesting parking lights on.

And for LED enabled trucks the simple idea would actually be a 2 diode circuit that links the DRL and parking light signals to the input of the parking lights. I need to look more into the FETs of the truck's BCM before I would do this, just to make sure they don't have an issue with two outputs getting tied together before the load. My basic thought is there is no issue since both are powered by same +12V from battery/alternator, but I've not played with FETs yet.

 

[ControlNode]

GREAT NEWS!!!! NO MODS NEEDED!!!! (Well, I did do one mod to seal the plugs)

I guess Anzo needs to work on their tech supports understanding the question and answering it right. I was told that if I put the truck in gear during the day with the light switch on auto with DRLs enabled, that the truck would send the request for the low beam and the low beam would light up. That is wrong. If the low beam request is received as DRL function the LED DRL of the light lights up bright as it should, if the parking lights come on the DRL goes to dimmer mode, again as it should. And with low or high beam the DRLs remain in the dimmer mode, again as they would on the Lariat. I don't know how they are determining the low beam as DRL, if it's seeing the lower voltage, or the lack of parking lights, but it doesn't matter, it works as it should.

Anzo did it right, but the marketing and tech support have not communicated that properly.


Tonight, I plan to aim them, I made a mark with my OE lights and measured the Lux of the halogens last night, I think the numbers for the OE lights are going to shock some people, hint: way different from what Morimoto reported in their video.

Only issue with the lights installed is the hole for push pin for the cover over the grill by the air intake box is too big, the pin can't secure that location. It was fine of the left side, but the right side I couldn't use the push pin, but it's so close the screw for the OE "mini snorkel" that I'm not worried about it. Also, the left light didn't have the metal clip-on nut for the screw on the side, so I had to pull it from the OE light and move it over. The new light for the right side had the clip-on nut as expected.

 

[underwhelmed]

GREAT NEWS!!!! NO MODS NEEDED!!!! (Well, I did do one mod to seal the plugs)

I guess Anzo needs to work on their tech supports understanding the question and answering it right. I was told that if I put the truck in gear during the day with the light switch on auto with DRLs enabled, that the truck would send the request for the low beam and the low beam would light up. That is wrong. If the low beam request is received as DRL function the LED DRL of the light lights up bright as it should, if the parking lights come on the DRL goes to dimmer mode, again as it should. And with low or high beam the DRLs remain in the dimmer mode, again as they would on the Lariat. I don't know how they are determining the low beam as DRL, if it's seeing the lower voltage, or the lack of parking lights, but it doesn't matter, it works as it should.

Anzo did it right, but the marketing and tech support have not communicated that properly.


Tonight, I plan to aim them, I made a mark with my OE lights and measured the Lux of the halogens last night, I think the numbers for the OE lights are going to shock some people, hint: way different from what Morimoto reported in their video.

Only issue with the lights installed is the hole for push pin for the cover over the grill by the air intake box is too big, the pin can't secure that location. It was fine of the left side, but the right side I couldn't use the push pin, but it's so close the screw for the OE "mini snorkel" that I'm not worried about it. Also, the left light didn't have the metal clip-on nut for the screw on the side, so I had to pull it from the OE light and move it over. The new light for the right side had the clip-on nut as expected.

Looking forward to pics and your review of light performance vs stock. Mine will be installed by my local 4x4 custom shop this Friday.

 

[ControlNode]

Looking forward to pics and your review of light performance vs stock. Mine will be installed by my local 4x4 custom shop this Friday.

I can give the security cam images for now.

Old halogen DRL mode

Anzo DRL mode.

I only moved the truck because it started to get misty out and forecast said rain in 5 minutes, nothing was on the forecast for rain when I started though.

 

[Big Blue]

GREAT NEWS!!!! NO MODS NEEDED!!!! (Well, I did do one mod to seal the plugs)

I guess Anzo needs to work on their tech supports understanding the question and answering it right. I was told that if I put the truck in gear during the day with the light switch on auto with DRLs enabled, that the truck would send the request for the low beam and the low beam would light up. That is wrong. If the low beam request is received as DRL function the LED DRL of the light lights up bright as it should, if the parking lights come on the DRL goes to dimmer mode, again as it should. And with low or high beam the DRLs remain in the dimmer mode, again as they would on the Lariat. I don't know how they are determining the low beam as DRL, if it's seeing the lower voltage, or the lack of parking lights, but it doesn't matter, it works as it should.

Anzo did it right, but the marketing and tech support have not communicated that properly.


Tonight, I plan to aim them, I made a mark with my OE lights and measured the Lux of the halogens last night, I think the numbers for the OE lights are going to shock some people, hint: way different from what Morimoto reported in their video.

Only issue with the lights installed is the hole for push pin for the cover over the grill by the air intake box is too big, the pin can't secure that location. It was fine of the left side, but the right side I couldn't use the push pin, but it's so close the screw for the OE "mini snorkel" that I'm not worried about it. Also, the left light didn't have the metal clip-on nut for the screw on the side, so I had to pull it from the OE light and move it over. The new light for the right side had the clip-on nut as expected.

Glad to hear they are working as you wanted, without modification. Did sound like you were having a good time working out ways to modify them for a while there.

As I have said in the past. I run my parking lights as part if my DRLs. Kind of a pet peeve of mine that people run around in foggy weather with just their DRLs and no tailights, if the have any lights on at all. Besides when I'm towing my TT, I like having my marker lights on. With my OLM lights the LED DRLs come on when I start the truck, and when I put it in gear the parking lights and fogs come on. The fogs are just cause I like the looks. ? I wish more people would use the Auto function on the switch. I have no problem with Canada's federal DRL law and wish the US would do the same. Why don't people realize the lights are not just to see by but BE SEEN.

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