Long range fuel tank (140L or 37 gal)

[myothercarizahearse]

I hate to break it to you, but it's y'all still using the imperial mile that's causing the confusion; it's also always struck me as a bit odd that the country that prides itself on having given the middle finger to the British Empire resolutely sticks to using the British Imperial measurement standards, when even the Brits have traded them in for the international standard in many (albeit, not all) metrics.

From Wikipedia: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mile#:~:text=While most countries abandoned the,Kingdom and the United States.)
While most countries abandoned the mile when switching to the metric system, the international mile continues to be used in some countries, such as Liberia, Myanmar,[57] the United Kingdom[58] and the United States.[59] It is also used in a number of territories with less than a million inhabitants, most of which are U.K. or U.S. territories, or have close historical ties with the U.K. or U.S.: American Samoa,[60] Bahamas,[61] Belize,[62] British Virgin Islands,[63] Cayman Islands,[64] Dominica,[64] Falkland Islands,[65] Grenada,[66] Guam,[67] The N. Mariana Islands,[68] Samoa,[69] St. Lucia,[70] St. Vincent & The Grenadines,[71] St. Helena,[72] St. Kitts & Nevis,[73] the Turks & Caicos Islands,[74] and the U.S. Virgin Islands.[75] The mile is even encountered in Canada, though this is predominantly in rail transport and horse racing, as the roadways have been metricated since 1977.[76][77][78][79] The Republic of Ireland gradually replaced miles with kilometres, including in speed measurements; the process was completed in 2005.

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[JohnnyO]

Did a long range tank ever come out for the US market?

18 Gallons, is that it? I am surprised that the US market isn’t flooded with long range tank options

I saw one a while ago, don't remember where, but it was pricey, like $1800 IIRC.

 

[Marpater]

I am pretty sure the fuel tank size in the US is heavily restricted by the freedom committee

I would have to believe its about weight reduction vs mpg, but it would be nice to have the option available like the F150 that I purchased in 12, there was a 36 gal option which was nice, I travel to and from Louisville KY from the Detroit area often and the truck could almost do a return trip without stopping.

 

[MXGOLF]

Yeah, we go back & forth re another tank on the truck. We're already up against GVWR with a front bumper/winch, sliders and a bit of under armor, so we're limited in what we can carry in the bed at this point.

We get anywhere from 8mpg (steep off-road) to 14mpg (45-50 mph on Baja roads) when towing and off-road, averaging around 11 just towing on super slabs at 55mph.

Luckily, the trailer is over spec'd on trailer and GCWR weights, so we can safely carry two 5 gallon cans on the back. This lightens the hitch a bit, which is good in this case, as the handling actually gets a bit better with another 100 lbs on the back.

Being old fogies helps here, as we can't really go for more than a few hours without getting out to stretch and use the facilities. So, stopping to refill at a pump or from the cans works out just fine in most cases. That having been said, range anxiety is always present when we go off-road, as even getting to the air-down point usually means we're already many miles from a fuel station.

We'll be heading to Toktoyaktuk this Summer, and I'll have to do a bit of math as we get closer on carrying another 5 to 10 gallons of petrol for that leg. It will all depend on if enough stations are reliably open. Here's a pic from last Fall in Ranier NP.

I am headed to Rainier NP in May but first stopping for 3 days at Olympic NP. Should be awesome.

 

[bostonburner]

I think the gas station pump hose nozzle size is 0.85" inches, so my one inch won't fit. The 5/8" "should".

I save fuel additive bottles and cut the bottom off to make "throw away" filler nozzles.

not sure if its just my cap but I have a wavian jerry can that is supposed to work with capless tanks but it wont go in. I ended up getting a noncarb wavian filler neck from overseas and it fits perfect, the only difference is the noncarb one is a slightly larger diameter which also matches up to the ford funnel. As a backup I also got a capless funnel of amazon that is much larger then teh one included from the factory.

 

[KNI]

I hate to break it to you, but it's y'all still using the imperial mile that's causing the confusion; it's also always struck me as a bit odd that the country that prides itself on having given the middle finger to the British Empire resolutely sticks to using the British Imperial measurement standards, when even the Brits have traded them in for the international standard in many (albeit, not all) metrics.

From Wikipedia: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mile#:~:text=While most countries abandoned the,Kingdom and the United States.)
While most countries abandoned the mile when switching to the metric system, the international mile continues to be used in some countries, such as Liberia, Myanmar,[57] the United Kingdom[58] and the United States.[59] It is also used in a number of territories with less than a million inhabitants, most of which are U.K. or U.S. territories, or have close historical ties with the U.K. or U.S.: American Samoa,[60] Bahamas,[61] Belize,[62] British Virgin Islands,[63] Cayman Islands,[64] Dominica,[64] Falkland Islands,[65] Grenada,[66] Guam,[67] The N. Mariana Islands,[68] Samoa,[69] St. Lucia,[70] St. Vincent & The Grenadines,[71] St. Helena,[72] St. Kitts & Nevis,[73] the Turks & Caicos Islands,[74] and the U.S. Virgin Islands.[75] The mile is even encountered in Canada, though this is predominantly in rail transport and horse racing, as the roadways have been metricated since 1977.[76][77][78][79] The Republic of Ireland gradually replaced miles with kilometres, including in speed measurements; the process was completed in 2005.

Hate to break it to you, but US is using kg/meter standard

However, customary unit standards are measured from these kg/meter.

Been that since, 1889 or so.

 

[LaBalbe]

Hate to break it to you, but US is using kg/meter standard

However, customary unit standards are measured from these kg/meter.

Been that since, 1889 or so.

Sorry, but not really. Sure, in some specific areas they're using the metric system, but by-and-large, the US uses the imperial system. As was demonstrated by this thread where OP used km and which gave rise to a bunch of questions re: how many miles that equaled (which is the query to which I was responding).

As a Canadian who travels in the US regularly, I assure you that I have to check the little inside arc of my speedometer to read MPH instead of KM/H, when I'm at the pump, I have to convert my 70L tank into 18 Gal, in order to estimate how much I need to pre-pay, and I have to convert temperatures from Fahrenheit to Celsius in order to get an accurate idea of how many layers I'll need, because I'm not familiar enough with F to ballpark it accurately.

For the sake of the conversation, here's the rough conversions which most Canadians (especially those who travel south enough) know by heart:
Distance: 1 mile = 1.6 km; 50mph = 80 km/h
Volume: 1 Gal = roughly 4L (so to compare what the gas rate is vs. home, we multiply by 4 - granted, this doesn't take into account US$ to Cdn$ conversion, but like I said, it's a rough estimate)
Temp: C to F: (Cx2)+32=F; reverse the operation for F to C. So, for swapping out winter tires the general wisdom is to do it around 7C, which comes out to 46F.

 

[KNI]

Sorry, but not really. Sure, in some specific areas they're using the metric system, but by-and-large, the US uses the imperial system. As was demonstrated by this thread where OP used km and which gave rise to a bunch of questions re: how many miles that equaled (which is the query to which I was responding).

As a Canadian who travels in the US regularly, I assure you that I have to check the little inside arc of my speedometer to read MPH instead of KM/H, when I'm at the pump, I have to convert my 70L tank into 18 Gal, in order to estimate how much I need to pre-pay, and I have to convert temperatures from Fahrenheit to Celsius in order to get an accurate idea of how many layers I'll need, because I'm not familiar enough with F to ballpark it accurately.

For the sake of the conversation, here's the rough conversions which most Canadians (especially those who travel south enough) know by heart:
Distance: 1 mile = 1.6 km; 50mph = 80 km/h
Volume: 1 Gal = roughly 4L (so to compare what the gas rate is vs. home, we multiply by 4 - granted, this doesn't take into account US$ to Cdn$ conversion, but like I said, it's a rough estimate)
Temp: C to F: (Cx2)+32=F; reverse the operation for F to C. So, for swapping out winter tires the general wisdom is to do it around 7C, which comes out to 46F.

Yes really. US NITS defines the measurement in meters & kilograms. e.g. Standard mass prototype for US is (or was until the definition of kg was changed to atom weight) the prototype kilogram 20.

The customary units standards e.g. feets, yards, pounds and such are then derived with conversion factor.

e.g. 1 yard is 3600/3937 meters. Thus a mile is 1760*3600/3937 meters by definition (it just so happens to be 1609,34721 meters)

 

[Dr_Strangelove]

I'm sorry to hear that and that stinks.

I came across a video for gas cans by Project Farm last night:

This was a good video David. Looks like the Justrite you posted was the winner overall but a little more costly than thhe Eagle & VP. For anyone curious here were the "cheap winners".

VP Racing Fuels $43

Eagle $60

 

[LaBalbe]

Yes really. US NITS defines the measurement in meters & kilograms. e.g. Standard mass prototype for US is (or was until the definition of kg was changed to atom weight) the prototype kilogram 20.

The customary units standards e.g. feets, yards, pounds and such are then derived with conversion factor.

e.g. 1 yard is 3600/3937 meters. Thus a mile is 1760*3600/3937 meters by definition (it just so happens to be 1609,34721 meters)

As I said, in specific areas (in this case, the scientific community and those who regulate or work with regulated measurements), yes, that gets used, but here we're talking about the GENERAL PUBLIC and ROUGH ESTIMATES.

 

[subquark]

not sure if its just my cap but I have a wavian jerry can that is supposed to work with capless tanks but it wont go in. I ended up getting a noncarb wavian filler neck from overseas and it fits perfect, the only difference is the noncarb one is a slightly larger diameter which also matches up to the ford funnel. As a backup I also got a capless funnel of amazon that is much larger then teh one included from the factory.

That's good info to know, the capless system is a pain for this type of thing but it is pretty easy for day-to-day use.

Of course, I'm always dreaming of the ultimate use of our Rangers - like the Baja Dump Run 500 - see who gets to the dump the fastest while losing the least of their load.

 

[OFC Ranger]

Listening to these two...

 

[subquark]

This was a good video David. Looks like the Justrite you posted was the winner overall but a little more costly than the Eagle & VP. For anyone curious here were the "cheap winners".

VP Racing Fuels $43

Eagle $60

I was glad it did well because I ordered it a while back, before seeing this video. I knew I wanted a metal can and one made in the US - that narrowed it down a lot. I also like the way the cap works, it was something I was familiar with when I was a firefighter in Texas.

But those two you listed were outstanding ones as well and just as good, imo.

Now a fuel cell like this would really stretch the range - a racing fuel cell - 22 gallons! Of course, it would reduce Soupie's dump run capabilities, but only in volume. Man, the dumps we could visit with a total of 40 gallons ... =D

https://www.jegs.com/i/RCI/821/1212C/10002/-1

 

[raytwntrvlr]

When I am towing our TT, I haul along a six-gallon boat gas tank and use a battery powered transfer pump. Only hassle so far was in Oregon where the gas pump girl got squeamish about putting gas in the boat tank. I just made up a story about my fishing boat over at the lake.

 

[KNI]

As I said, in specific areas (in this case, the scientific community and those who regulate or work with regulated measurements), yes, that gets used, but here we're talking about the GENERAL PUBLIC and ROUGH ESTIMATES.

If you use metric system, then you are using metric system.
If you use us customary system, then you are using metric system (albeit with a conversion factor and non-SI multiplies)
You are just rough estimating the conversion factor and multiplies within the metric system.

But this is irrelevant as we're talking about poles and fences.

P.S. Fort Knight cannot possibly hold for two weeks.

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