Payload Stickers

[Big Blue]

Just simply question. Does the max. Payload number include the weight of a full tank of gas? I know the weight of any modifications from stock will need to be included as payload. But what about a tank of gas, 19 gallons weighs close to 140 pounds.

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[Sanctus Rimor]

I thought I seen something about thiat in the owners manual, but can't remember.

Or it was in my moto manual. I know motorcycle specs are shady like that. They list dry weight, so not sure they account for any fluids or gas in cargo calculations.

 

[Peragrin]

2021 XLT with black appearance package. So running boards, bigger tires etc.

What i find interesting is my tire psi is 30 on 18"inch rims and 17" rims it is 35

But 1450#- 750 tongue weight is 700 pounds. Enough for me two kids and wife and a few light weight toys for kids plus leaving plenty for a camper

 

[Big Blue]

Not at the truck for a picture, but it’s 1823lbs. Cost $27,214. 2021 XLT 2wd, supercab. I put pencil to paper and determined I needed 1800lbs payload, and 7000lbs towing. Then I scoured the market to find out my cheapest option. Then I looked at the XL and XLT base package and determined the base XLT was best for my needs with only a few options.

2021 XLT with black appearance package. So running boards, bigger tires etc.

What i find interesting is my tire psi is 30 on 18"inch rims and 17" rims it is 35

But 1450#- 750 tongue weight is 700 pounds. Enough for me two kids and wife and a few light weight toys for kids plus leaving plenty for a camper

Just remember if you load your truck up to max. payload you will not be able to tow a 7500# trailer and stay under the GCVWR for your truck.

All these numbers work together or against each other. Our wonderful manual does not explain the conditions required to achieve the 7500# tow rating. Look at the Ford towing guide and read all the fine print.

 

[THLONE]

The payload sticker is for an as built truck. When you change something then you better know what you are doing.

 

[Big Blue]

The payload sticker is for an as built truck. When you change something then you better know what you are doing.

Right any added weight from mods counts a payload.

 

[halligan1201]

Just noticed your tire pressure says 35psi with the 265-65-17 tires. Do the 2wd trucks run higher pressure? My sticker says 30psi with the same tires.

Different tires on his. The Tremor says 39. There are several "correct" factory pressures.

 

[halligan1201]

Lariat Tremor is 1430. For my recent Wyoming back country trip, I actually created a spreadsheet with the weight of everything I was packing, including myself and my son; since it was going to be largely on BLM roads and worse, I wanted to stay away from getting overloaded. We ended up having about 400lbs of wiggle room.

 

[ctechbob]

Why do you say this??

SAE J2807 includes 150# driver and passenger baked into it.

 

[DonB]

I simply posted a pic of your mom where the weight limit tag is.
I'll see myself out.

 

[Big Blue]

SAE J2807 includes 150# driver and passenger baked into it.

It has the driver but I'm not sure it has a passenger too. But it is definitely a empty truck beyond that.

 

[ctechbob]

It has the driver but I'm not sure it has a passenger too. But it is definitely a empty truck beyond that.

Straight from the SAE Doc.

3.2.1 Tow-vehicles Under 8500 lb GVWR
TVTW is the weight of the tow-vehicle used for EPA emissions and fuel economy certification including all options inx Ecess of 33% sales penetration plus one 68.0 kg (150 lb) driver and one 68.0 kg (150 lb) front seat passenger, plus thet Tow-vehicle manufacturer’s available trailering package and/or any required trailering content (if not included in the 33% option penetration weight) plus representative aftermarket trailering equipment as specified in 5.2. In the case where a trailering package is not available from the tow-vehicle manufacturer or it does not include a trailer hitch component, the representative aftermarket trailering equipment as specified in 5.2 shall include a trailer hitch component.

3.2.2 Tow-vehicles at 8500 lb or Greater GVWR
TVTW is base vehicle curb weight plus one 68.0 kg (150 lb) driver and one 68.0 kg (150 lb) front seat passenger plus 45.4 kg (100 lb) of optional equipment split evenly between front and rear axles plus the tow-vehicle manufacturer’s available trailering package and/or any required trailering content and representative aftermarket trailering equipment as specified in 5.2. In the case where a trailering package is not available from the tow-vehicle manufacturer or it does not include a trailer hitch component, the representative aftermarket trailering equipment as specified in 5.2 shall include a trailer hitch component.

 

[Big Blue]

SAE J2807 includes 150# driver and passenger baked into it.

Ok, I checked into it and yes SAE J2807 does include a driver and passenger. But that is for calculating maximum tow capacity. I believe you both count towards payload capacity.

 

[brroberts]

But GCVW is 12,500. So you can come close. I have added some accessories, but also removed a little. The adds are greater than the removes. I typically head out at GCVW around 11,700.

 

[Big Blue]

Straight from the SAE Doc.

3.2.1 Tow-vehicles Under 8500 lb GVWR
TVTW is the weight of the tow-vehicle used for EPA emissions and fuel economy certification including all options inx Ecess of 33% sales penetration plus one 68.0 kg (150 lb) driver and one 68.0 kg (150 lb) front seat passenger, plus thet Tow-vehicle manufacturer’s available trailering package and/or any required trailering content (if not included in the 33% option penetration weight) plus representative aftermarket trailering equipment as specified in 5.2. In the case where a trailering package is not available from the tow-vehicle manufacturer or it does not include a trailer hitch component, the representative aftermarket trailering equipment as specified in 5.2 shall include a trailer hitch component.

3.2.2 Tow-vehicles at 8500 lb or Greater GVWR
TVTW is base vehicle curb weight plus one 68.0 kg (150 lb) driver and one 68.0 kg (150 lb) front seat passenger plus 45.4 kg (100 lb) of optional equipment split evenly between front and rear axles plus the tow-vehicle manufacturer’s available trailering package and/or any required trailering content and representative aftermarket trailering equipment as specified in 5.2. In the case where a trailering package is not available from the tow-vehicle manufacturer or it does not include a trailer hitch component, the representative aftermarket trailering equipment as specified in 5.2 shall include a trailer hitch component.

Typical legal mumbo jumbo. Not sure what the legal definition of TVTW is. Cannot be tow rating or you couldn't tow greater than the GVWR of the truck. Assume it is Tow Vehicle Towing Weigh and is used in some other calculations.

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