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Trigganometry
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Tesla was the first to do it. Has it been smooth, depends on who you ask. People still prefer to do business with a known entity that is local to them. You have your preferred dealer already right? There are some local to me that I wouldn’t walk into their doors even if they were the only game in town. So this is going to pan out similarly.
Like Tesla, some will embrace it and others will say, that’s nice I’ll pass. That is until there is no other way. Think it’s going to be an all or nothing across the industry for this to work.
Like Tesla, some will embrace it and others will say, that’s nice I’ll pass. That is until there is no other way. Think it’s going to be an all or nothing across the industry for this to work.
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The name match requirement on orders is silly in this day and age.
How can Ford hold a dealership to that when they can't produce vehicles on a timely basis?
Do they really think 75% of people will keep their orders when it takes them a year to build them?
How can Ford hold a dealership to that when they can't produce vehicles on a timely basis?
Do they really think 75% of people will keep their orders when it takes them a year to build them?
Squatchranger
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Honestly there isnt a lot of money in selling cars especially now, but service? Holy shit the margins they have is unbelievable. New cars don't really make much money unless you add markups and bs like that but used ones are decent usually. My store operates on the principle that service keeps the lights on and is still some extra profit and sales is just profit
Squatchranger
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100 percent peoples lives change and priorities as well. As a species we think short term and have short attention spans. I will say tho to be fair ford is honestly trying to look out for customers, with all the crap dealers are pulling they really don't have a choice, so blame the scummy dealers who ruin it for everyone not ford.
NotBudule
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They should do their EV's this way, they claim its a "seperate oval" , try it without the dealer , and do EV's need any kind if maintenance? Things will break , but is there "wheel motor maintenance " ? or some other drive train parts that need regular service ? I would think brakes last forever since most use the regen, just wondering how the dealership talks EV owners out of their money ? after the sale ...
Squatchranger
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They actually are dealers will have to opt in to the electric program or get none at all ford is doing it as essentially 2 different companies with ev's the dealer really just facilitates the delivery and nothing else. Also you would think but a lot of people are stupid one of our finance guys sold a mach e buyer the maintenance package for the brakes oil changes fluids etc ON AN EV it doesnt have oil and as you said the brakes last a long time, the best part is he didnt bring it up the guy buying the mach e did. But beyond tires and regular wearables not nearly as much. So to address your last question dealers don't have to the customers a lot of times will end up doing it themselves
26point2
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I don't have the facts in front of me, but some states have franchise laws that prohibit buying a new car directly from the manufacturer. Some years ago I thought I heard/read if you lived in one of the Carolina's?? you couldn't buy a Tesla in state due to no Tesla dealers in the state.
It was a story from some time ago so I'm sure I got my details all boogered up.
It was a story from some time ago so I'm sure I got my details all boogered up.
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LostMy65
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That's what I'm thinking also. And, if ford isn't allowing the dealers to sell new vehicles to make money, the dealerships will have to make it up somewhere.
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Yes, they're trying to do something. It's just not enough or the right thing in my mind.
I don't see why Ford couldn't just flat out renegotiate their contractual agreements. In doing so they could limit/eliminate ADMs.
halligan1201
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In terms of buying, I don't care what dealer it is - best deal wins. As for service, I get much more picky.
lawrench
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I do not know if anyone has already said this or not, but if you have to eliminate ICE and are forced to sell EV's, then you have to compete with your competitor. Notice that Tesla and Rivian have no dealerships? There is a cost the manufacturers pay for a dealership partnership. The biggest is that most dealerships harm the manufacturer brand. Let's face it, we have all had experience with a bad dealership. I do not know, but believe that dealerships make most of their money not by the sale of a vehicle, but the money they get for services. Anything repaired under warranty is reimbursed by the manufacturer with the labor, more than likely, at Union wages. Do not worry about dealerships, they will survive. What everyone needs to be concerned about is that what dealerships did do is repair the damage done by shipping, cleanup the vehicle and find issues before the sale. But those Dealer Fee's are painful to pay, but at some dealers, it is well worth the money (In some cases). There are pro's and con's, but the dealerships will never completely go away, they will be "Re-Imagined".
