Factory auto start-stop delete?

[Squatchranger]

I would have happily paid fifty bucks to delete it. But now it's just part of the pre-flite checklist, that includes remove the sunshade, adjust the AC and turn down the stereo FFS!!

The beauty is they are paying you 50 bucks to delete it

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[Squatchranger]

You are joking right? It definitely helps out a very real problem.

You are entitled to not like how it feels or various other concerns, but to deny that it doesn't help get better fuel mileage and the benefits that provide? Laughable.

And we are just going to ignore the proven wear and mechanical problems the ASS causes?

 

[Progeny2021]

I liked the look on people's faces whenever my Ranger stalled at a stop.

"What happened? Did your brand new truck just stall?"

"Yes it did. Ford developed its profoundly intuitive 'Auto Stall' feature to dazzle the public with their brilliance and baffle the same public with bulls***".

"Oh, ok, I get it. Car stalls so the next person over will look at you while you make funny faces at them - I got it".

"Exactly!"

 

[MCMustang51]

And we are just going to ignore the proven wear and mechanical problems the ASS causes?

who said we are doing that? like with everything there are pros and cons. I thing the pros outweigh the cons, financially and environmentally.

if it bothers you so much, its easy to remove

 

[Squatchranger]

who said we are doing that? like with everything there are pros and cons. I thing the pros outweigh the cons, financially and environmentally.

if it bothers you so much, its easy to remove

If you think the pros being having to replace parts faster and cause more environmental impact by having more parts produced than would otherwise be needed not to mention the disposal or recycling of the worn components and the cost of replacing them is outweighed by a negligible gain in mpg and a miniscule reduction in emissions then you are either using flawed "data" or more likely disregarding or not considering the larger factors. Also I do turn it off every time, the bother to me personally is irrelevant what is relevant is the misrepresentation of facts and lack of consideration of the big picture. Its the same thing with electric cars, making them is very bad for the environment and also where do you think the electricity comes from? Yet people are all high and mighty about them when the real economical and environmentally conscious thing to do is to use your vehicle for as long as possible that way we can reduce the amount of production that is needed

 

[MCMustang51]

If you think the pros being having to replace parts faster and cause more environmental impact by having more parts produced than would otherwise be needed not to mention the disposal or recycling of the worn components and the cost of replacing them is outweighed by a negligible gain in mpg and a miniscule reduction in emissions then you are either using flawed "data" or more likely disregarding or not considering the larger factors

And what "data" are you using?

Sounds like you are the one pulling stuff out of nowhere.

You are acting like you have to replace the starter every 25k miles or something.

 

[Squatchranger]

And what "data" are you using?

Sounds like you are the one pulling stuff out of nowhere.

You are acting like you have to replace the starter every 25k miles or something.

As has been mentioned by several others it is well documented that the constant starting and stopping of engines not just in rangers in general causes much faster wear, I will let you do your own research, and I can ask you that same thing

 

[rydfree]

It will be interesting to see the effects of A.S.S. when the vehicles are a bit older and do not want to start back up in an instant . I'm sure auto repair shops will love it .

I wonder if the people who love A.S.S. for the fuel savings and protecting the environment use the remote start feature that waste the fuel A.S.S. supposedly saves ?

If you really want to save fuel and help the environment , not using use the AC would help a ton more

 

[MCMustang51]

As has been mentioned by several others it is well documented that the constant starting and stopping of engines not just in rangers in general causes much faster wear, I will let you do your own research, and I can ask you that same thing

You already quoted my data of 2mpg. Thats a roughly ~10% savings. Not bad. So sounds like you are familiar with the benefits

There is scant data on what you are talking about. I've searched around as I was not a fan of the technology when I first drove in a vehicle a few years ago because of how different driving was. I've been a jack rabbit starter in previous life. Because of this I looked closely into the tech in the industry and in this vehicle when purchasing it.

However, the wear you are talking about isn't something that I see as a major concern. Do you really believe it's going to be a problem over the life of the vehicle? Even if it, the problem is going to be the starter, a $100 part. Not bad.

And again, if this is such an issue for you, turn it off. I recommend doing it via Forscan and not some of the other hacks seen around these parts

 

[MCMustang51]

It will be interesting to see the effects of A.S.S. when the vehicles are a bit older and do not want to start back up in an instant . I'm sure auto repair shops will love it .

I wonder if the people who love A.S.S. for the fuel savings and protecting the environment use the remote start feature that waste the fuel A.S.S. supposedly saves ?

If you really want to save fuel and help the environment , not using use the AC would help a ton more

Are you serious? Everything helps guy. Why do you think that if you can not do everything, you should just do nothing?

 

[Progeny2021]

Do we have any data yet on carbon buildup in GDI auto start motors vs non-auto start motors?

 

[Squatchranger]

You already quoted my data of 2mpg. Thats a roughly ~10% savings. Not bad. So sounds like you are familiar with the benefits

There is scant data on what you are talking about. I've searched around as I was not a fan of the technology when I first drove in a vehicle a few years ago because of how different driving was. I've been a jack rabbit starter in previous life. Because of this I looked closely into the tech in the industry and in this vehicle when purchasing it.

However, the wear you are talking about isn't something that I see as a major concern. Do you really believe it's going to be a problem over the life of the vehicle? Even if it, the problem is going to be the starter, a $100 part. Not bad.

And again, if this is such an issue for you, turn it off. I recommend doing it via Forscan and not some of the other hacks seen around these parts

The 2mpg is an arbitrary number, based on my experience using ass for a tank and then turning it off there was a negligible difference, also it is going to be more than the starter that is affected, if you like it good for you however virtue signaling that it is so much better and has few to no downsides is unjustifiable

 

[rydfree]

Are you serious? Everything helps guy. Why do you think that if you can not do everything, you should just do nothing?

Let's just say A.S.S. should be an option for the ones that like it .

 

[Squatchranger]

Let's just say A.S.S. should be an option for the ones that like it .

Hell I would be happy if ford just made the setting be remembered so you don't have to hit the button everytime without screwing with the programming or using a nightlight lmao. My friend has a jeep that has the ASS and was out on a trail and forgot to turn it off and then boom after stopping it turned on and apparently he had messed something up cause we couldn't get it to start after lmao (we know it was the ASS cause the little indicator turned on)

 

[Steven D Tipton]

People long ago hated seat belts. Hmmm was thought and still have a few that believe it's more dangerous to wear it.

With that being said. Some will like the A.S.S, some wont. Follow your own choice and be done with it. Me personally, I use it. Does it save gas. Maybe a little because I'm all in town driving. Some one commuting 1 hr or so to work and not city driving.

Absolutely no value This is what I look at, I use it now, it lets me warm up truck in winter at the cost of using it other times of the year. Saved yearly NO. Now not using it and letting a turbo warm of in winter.

Yes will cost me more. I see plenty of rangers in the mid teens, MPG. They, level, put over size tires on, tune,. etc etc. Then turn around and complain of MPG. Completely Ok but again it's your preference.

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