Can Ford tell who's tune has been loaded?

[Rp930]

I am quite sure they know their tune from anybody else. That’s all they need to know.

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[JasonTremor]

I thought the Ford Performance calibration reduced power train warranty to 3 yrs 36k miles from the 5yr 60k miles? If that is the case, I would bet a few dollars that installing the Ford calibration voids the power train portion of the Ford ESP 6yr 125k mile coverage.

 

[JimJ]

I thought the Ford Performance calibration reduced power train warranty to 3 yrs 36k miles from the 5yr 60k miles? If that is the case, I would bet a few dollars that installing the Ford calibration voids the power train portion of the Ford ESP 6yr 125k mile coverage.

The ford performance tune doesn’t reduce powertrain warranty. It’s itself is covered for 36000.

 

[JasonTremor]

The ford performance tune doesn’t reduce powertrain warranty. It’s itself is covered for 36000.

This is copied straight from Ford:

"

• Comes with Ford Performance 3yr/36k mile warranty from new vehicle in-service when installed by a Ford dealer or ASE/Red Seal certified technician

"

So it does reduce your 5yr 60k mile power train to 3yr 36k miles.

 

[Frenchy]

Correct it does reduce the Factory powertrain warranty. As for ESP(Ford Extended Warranty) it is hard to say since it is up to their discretion. But then again the Ford Performance tune does not go as hogh compared to other aftermarket tunes(Livernois, unleashed, 5Star and so on) so the chances of you having a problem especially if you take care of the truck are minimal

 

[Jackpot Tremor]

Correct it does reduce the Factory powertrain warranty. As for ESP(Ford Extended Warranty) it is hard to say since it is up to their discretion. But then again the Ford Performance tune does not go as hogh compared to other aftermarket tunes(Livernois, unleashed, 5Star and so on) so the chances of you having a problem especially if you take care of the truck are minimal

I'm not too worried about the powertrain (motor/trans) not lasting until 6 years or 125,000 miles but you never know.......I bought the Ford Extended Warranty for peace of mind but also more for like the a/c or an LED headlight assemby, etc......they can't blame the failure of those items on the NON-ASE installed Ford tune causing the failure.......cuz that's what ford would probably try to say if the motor or the tranny goes bad.......but I hope not!

I (my mechanic) changed the oil at 2,500 miles and used Amsoil signature series 5w-30 fully synthetic and ready for another oil change now that I'm at 6,200......I'll use Amsoil again and probably do the front and rear diff change at the same time and again use the Amsoil on those as well.

My understanding is the Ford has to PROVE the Ford tune caused the failure of an item to not honor the warranty.....in my case, the 6 years or 125,000 miles extended warranty.......so if the motor takes a crap at 100,00 then my extended warranty should cover it.......and Ford would have to PROVE that the NON-ASE installed Ford Tune caused the failure.......pretty hard to argue that because all it is is a different software backed by Ford......nothing mechanical about the Ford tune......it's either installed or not......I can't imagine anyone installing it "wrong".......it's not even possible as it's simple a software upgrade........unless I'm missing something??

 

[SilverSlugger]

I'm not too worried about the powertrain (motor/trans) not lasting until 6 years or 125,000 miles but you never know.......I bought the Ford Extended Warranty for peace of mind but also more for like the a/c or an LED headlight assemby, etc......they can't blame the failure of those items on the NON-ASE installed Ford tune causing the failure.......cuz that's what ford would probably try to say if the motor or the tranny goes bad.......but I hope not!

I (my mechanic) changed the oil at 2,500 miles and used Amsoil signature series 5w-30 fully synthetic and ready for another oil change now that I'm at 6,200......I'll use Amsoil again and probably do the front and rear diff change at the same time and again use the Amsoil on those as well.

My understanding is the Ford has to PROVE the Ford tune caused the failure of an item to not honor the warranty.....in my case, the 6 years or 125,000 miles extended warranty.......so if the motor takes a crap at 100,00 then my extended warranty should cover it.......and Ford would have to PROVE that the NON-ASE installed Ford Tune caused the failure.......pretty hard to argue that because all it is is a different software backed by Ford......nothing mechanical about the Ford tune......it's either installed or not......I can't imagine anyone installing it "wrong".......it's not even possible as it's simple a software upgrade........unless I'm missing something??

All well and good until Ford says, "nah its your fault". Then you have the option to pay out of pocket, get a new truck or get outspent in the courtroom. Good luck.

 

[Frenchy]

I'm not too worried about the powertrain (motor/trans) not lasting until 6 years or 125,000 miles but you never know.......I bought the Ford Extended Warranty for peace of mind but also more for like the a/c or an LED headlight assemby, etc......they can't blame the failure of those items on the NON-ASE installed Ford tune causing the failure.......cuz that's what ford would probably try to say if the motor or the tranny goes bad.......but I hope not!

I (my mechanic) changed the oil at 2,500 miles and used Amsoil signature series 5w-30 fully synthetic and ready for another oil change now that I'm at 6,200......I'll use Amsoil again and probably do the front and rear diff change at the same time and again use the Amsoil on those as well.

My understanding is the Ford has to PROVE the Ford tune caused the failure of an item to not honor the warranty.....in my case, the 6 years or 125,000 miles extended warranty.......so if the motor takes a crap at 100,00 then my extended warranty should cover it.......and Ford would have to PROVE that the NON-ASE installed Ford Tune caused the failure.......pretty hard to argue that because all it is is a different software backed by Ford......nothing mechanical about the Ford tune......it's either installed or not......I can't imagine anyone installing it "wrong".......it's not even possible as it's simple a software upgrade........unless I'm missing something??

You are correct about ford having to prove what caused said issue(AC, radio, powertrain). As for the oil, I feel you are waisting your money on the AmsOil. The joy of knowing the price. I would just stick with Motocraft Full Synthetic at that point. I did 5,000 mile intervals and never had a problem.

 

[Dr. Zaius]

Ford doesn't really need to know or even care whose tune is loaded.

All they need to prove is that it's not the factory tune and they'll lawyer up and deny.

Long read, but see this thread.

He was warrantied but NOT by Ford. He had purchased the aftermarket warranty from 5 Star that ended up covering him.

I Think I Threw A Rod

 

[Fitzmotor]

Ford has to care, they have to honor warranty repairs with theirs, just not anybody else's, I'm just curious if they can easily tell.

 

[Frenchy]

Ford has to care, they have to honor warranty repairs with theirs, just not anybody else's, I'm just curious if they can easily tell.

If you have an extreme engine failure then chances are Ford will push the text to check in certain things including the PCM programming part number. When they look into that they will find out whether you have a Ford tune or an aftermarket tune. As for the failure in particular it still depends on what it's related to and what would have caused it and Weatherford would decide to cover it or not

 

[JimJ]

This is copied straight from Ford:

"

• Comes with Ford Performance 3yr/36k mile warranty from new vehicle in-service when installed by a Ford dealer or ASE/Red Seal certified technician

"

So it does reduce your 5yr 60k mile power train to 3yr 36k miles.

Yes the tune has a 36k warranty. You show me where it cuts the power train warranty down to 36k

 

[Langwilliams]

I waited 8K to tune my truck. I figured if there was a major flaw it'd show up sooner than later. I'm more worried about the ventilation system or something like that failing than I am the engine or transmission.

I've seen one thread on a blown engine that was tuned an because of the situation he drove with the oil light on to a safe area. I think I've seen 2 transmission threads an those weren't tuned. If it happens to happen to your truck it sucks but I don't see many reports of powertrain total failures.

 

[Dr. Zaius]

it cuts it only when the tune is not installed by a certified mechanic.
if you install it with a certified mechanic the original power train warranty is intact.

I think for those that are confused, these statements from this article make it clear.

https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/y...ng-with-more-power-thanks-to-ford-performance

One of my questions I have had since this came out and I havent had clarified, is this "from new" statement on the ford performance site.
Does that mean if I install it at 2 years and 26000 miles, I only have 1 year and 10000 miles remaining on the 3/36 warranty?

Yes. The warranty begins from date of first service.

 

[JasonTremor]

Yes the tune has a 36k warranty. You show me where it cuts the power train warranty down to 36k

https://performanceparts.ford.com/download/PDFS/fpp-warranty.pdf

Page one outlines the performance pack warranty. It's a grey area legally the way I read it. If you have a water pump or a/c compressor failure beyond the 3/36, reads as though they will fix it, but if you have a power train failure they can reasonably associate with the fpp calibration beyond that 3/36, I'd be making plans to cover that out of pocket.

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