A New Era in vehicles

[AzScorpion]

Edit: I didn't see Scooters post. I guess I should've looked back over the first page.

What could possibly go wrong?


https://businesshala.com/a-california-couples-tesla-caught-fire-while-charging-overnight-ignited-another-tesla-next-to-it-and-caused-a-massive-house-fire-they-havent-been-home-in-8-months/#:~:text=A California couple have said their Tesla Model,homes since the December 30 fire last year.

A California couple’s Tesla caught fire while charging overnight, ignited another Tesla next to it, and caused a massive house fire. They haven’t been home in 8 months.

The couple's 2013 Tesla Model S 85 had caught fire as it was charging, and ignited a second Tesla Model S parked next to it - creating explosions strong enough to blow off the garage doors, they told the Post.

The Post's report included video footage of the fire taken by Yogi Vindum on the night.

The Post said that the Vindums received a fire inspection report in July which cited either the car's thermal management system or electrical system as the possible cause of the blaze.

The Post cited a report from the San Ramon Valley Fire Protection District that reported the fire caused more than $1 million in damage.

“The firemen said it was so hot they couldn’t walk up to the driveway,” Yogi Vindam told The Post. At least six fire engines reached the spot, he said.

Tesla has faced growing concerns over multiple reports of fires in its vehicles. In July, a new Tesla Model S Plaid reportedly caught fire in Philadelphia while it was being driven, said Mark Geragos, the owner’s attorney.

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[RedlandRanger]

Edited for truth.

Please be careful with where this goes. This is heading in dangerous territory.

 

[Dr. Zaius]

Please be careful with where this goes. This is heading in dangerous territory.

Not meaning to get political. Please delete if questionable.

I was just pointing out that some folks will try to legislate technology into existence without thinking or caring about how it will actually be done.

 

[RedlandRanger]

Not meaning to get political. Please delete if questionable.

I was just pointing out that some folks will try to legislate technology into existence without thinking or caring about how it will actually be done.

Its fine as it is - just trying to keep the ball from rolling the wrong way.

It is the eternal problem with legislative solutions, no matter how well intentioned.

 

[Trigganometry]

I have no problem with EV's. But as usual the government, and manufacturers is getting the cart before the horse. There should be amply charging stations across the country, and vehicles should charge much faster. If you need to be across the country it shouldn't take you 3 days longer, because you can't find a charger or you have to wait to long for the vehicle to charge. And of course the range of the batteries has got to be improved. Having to stop in 300-350 miles is not an optimal range for those that travel for a living. IMHO

BTW, has any of these EV advocates even considered the power grids. I live in the Historic District in our town. If 2/3rd's of the people on my small part of a very old power grid plug their vehicles in the same time, I doubt very seriously with all the other electrical drains, that the grid could handle the load.

And another thing. I have a lot of questions. Is there anywhere these batteries can be recycled with they are done. Or, is it gonna be like those stupid fluorescent squiggly light bulbs brought to us by George Bush the younger?

See my post above. Availability is a decade away. Don’t care what they say. It took longer for broadband and that still is insufficient.

Currently only a few companies nationally that can recycle newer battery chemistries. That turns into another Nuclear waste issue or technology comes in to make a profit from it. If no profit we got a new problem to add to the others.

It’s easy to sell this stuff, it’s all together different once it’s lifecycle is over. No foresight, just profit driven

 

[Msfitoy]

UPR ?

My wife's a Yuper...

 

[ScrappyLaptop]

Burning Down The House.

This is all we need is more Fires

A California couple's Tesla caught fire while charging overnight, ignited another Tesla next to it, and caused a massive house fire. They haven't been home in 8 months. (msn.com)

To be fair though, how many California fires have been started by catalytic converters?

(A: Five in the last two weeks, with a handful more still listed as "possibly caused by vehicle exhaust". That's only grass fires, doesn't include structure-only fires)

 

[dapakattack]

My wife's a Yuper...

Do you mean Yooper? Or is Yuper a NC thing?

 

[JJG]

Yep, we're in the twilight of the internal combustion engine. Within a decade, they'll be a luxury and we'll pay $$$ to buy fuel for them. I'm guessing this will be my last or second to last new car that is gas solely gas powered simply because I won't have a choice.

Actually, using the economics of supply & demand, gasoline will be going down in price due to less demand. Look at last year with covid and nobody traveling, the price of fuel and oil plummeted. As we use less with EV’s and better fuel efficiency on ICE’s, oil in general for transportation will go the way of vhs tapes. This is why the oil producing economy's are reinventing themselves. Saudi Arabia is planning to transition to making semi-conductors as a primary commodity for their economy. The current strategy of the opec nations is to keep oil low so they can get as many ICE’s on the road as possible before the massive decline in consumption.

 

[Msfitoy]

Do you mean Yooper? Or is Yuper a NC thing?

Good thing she's not on here lol...

 

[Azriq]

I've had this for awhile now...

 

[Dr. Zaius]

And this fresh article is also relevant...

Chevy Bolt Battery Fire Recall Could Cost GM $1 BIllion

But hey, look at the bright side.

New houses won't be so expensive since they won't be needing those unable to be used garages anymore.

 

[slowmachine]

I think we’re going to be talking about the transition to all-electric transportation until everyone on this forum is dead and gone.

Some points that I think about during my daily reading of related news:

Elon Musk is not the first to say this, but he is really the first to provide a tiny bit of a solution - the planetary supply of “fossil fuels” is a finite resource. We will certainly exhaust the supply. Nobody knows exactly when that will happen, but it is inevitable.

Ships sailed around the world for thousands of years on only wind power, supplemented in some tiny percentage by men pulling on oars.

Air travel, as we know it, is at extreme risk of becoming impossible unless we can find enormous quantities of a suitable renewable fuel.

Electric vehicle fires are only notable because of their newness. I dabbled in old Volkswagens for many years. Due to fundamental design flaws, fires are a fairly frequent occurrence, and a topic of much discussion on owner forums. I knew of one owner whose van’s starter short-circuited in the middle of the night, propelling the manual transmission-equipped vehicle, customarily parked in first gear, forward into the garage. The van caught fire. The garage, along with the house, were a total loss. The family escaped unharmed. I started parking my vans in 4th gear instead of 1st.

We have spent 100+ years building an infrastructure and lifestyles based on the availability of inexpensive oil-fueled transportation. It is unsustainable in its current form. Electric vehicles are a proverbial “finger in the dike.” Much more will be required.

Governments, politics, and politicians, must be part of the discussion and decisions on how to move forward, and at what pace. It’s going to be ugly, and many sacred cows will be sacrificed along the way.

 

[Rene Michaels]

Until we have reliable energy grids, don't believe the hype!

 

[slowmachine]

Until we have reliable energy grids, don't believe the hype!

What is “the hype”?

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