A New Era in vehicles

[DeathRanger]

Ford slated to spend more on EVs than on internal combustion engine vehicles in 2023

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/b...s-than-conventional-vehicles-2023/5454545001/

- Ford said it was increasing its investments in electrification to $30 billion through 2025
- Ford has said it expects to electrify 40% of its global lineup by 2030

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[halligan1201]

Yep, we're in the twilight of the internal combustion engine. Within a decade, they'll be a luxury and we'll pay $$$ to buy fuel for them. I'm guessing this will be my last or second to last new car that is gas solely gas powered simply because I won't have a choice.

 

[Nomadjohn]

Agreed. Looking at the F-150 lightning, that is a phenomenal truck and really the only thing holding it back is charging speed and availability. I think gas will be with us for a while but will be reserved for people who need to drive long distances with really heavy vehicles (think truckers and hot shoters).

 

[Charley]

Will electric vehicles need a locking cap on the charging port? Can you "siphon" electric from the battery of one vehicle to another?

 

[Dr. Zaius]

While electric vehicles are compelling, there seems to be an inordinate number of them spontaneously catching fire.

Are Electric Vehicles Safe?

Since there are far fewer EVs, I wonder what the percentage of spontaneous fires in them compared to gas vehicles would be?

 

[Porpoise Hork]

Auto manufacturers making this hard push to EV's but will be facing significant challenges moving forward. The charging Infrastructure to support them on a national scale is decades away from remotely being able to support them like gasoline. Then there's the aging power grid to contend with. As we have just recently seen in California when their grid was on the verge of collapse and they were all but begging EV owners to hold off charging when possible. What do they think will happen when there are 50+ million EV's out there and the additional strain they will put on the nation's grid? Unless there is massive updates made to the grid it won't be pretty. What about the environmental impact caused by mining the rare earth minerals needed to produce many of the components in the batteries alone? Oh sure the care produces no carbon itself, but how many additional hundreds of millions of tons of carbon would produced in the mining, refining, distribution, manufacturing, and increased power generation needed to support them on the scale they are wanting? All this for a EV that in most cases cannot make it 200 miles per charge under current battery technology. One of the guys I work with has a Tesla 3 and has the 82Kw battery upgrade and he says he usually gets just over 200 miles per charge. He told me it takes 6-10 hours to charge it it back up daily and that his electric bill has increased on average $70 a month since getting the car.

IC powered vehicles are not going away any time soon, but eventually will be phased out due to state and federal gov. pressures. Even then it will be quite some time before EV's are ready for prime time.

 

[DeathRanger]

The Electric f150 platform could be one of the greatest vehicles they ever made if they really put the resources behind it. Unfortunately, 1st year capacity is capped at 80k vehicles. Last I heard there was 120k plus pre-orders.

Hopefully Ford can secure the items and supply chain needed create the battery cells to build more electric f150's and Mach-E. They've already been prioritizing chips to go to Mach-E's rather a gas mustang which is helping to sell more Mach-E's

 

[Scooter]

At this point EV's are not the solution.

 

[got3fords]

EV's can be really cool to drive. They are really techy. I was taken for a ride in a Tesla and the acceleration was incredible. But they are not a solution to anything.

 

[Dr. Zaius]

Auto manufacturers Politicians and Activists making this hard push to EV's but will be facing significant challenges moving forward. The charging Infrastructure to support them on a national scale is decades away from remotely being able to support them like gasoline. Then there's the aging power grid to contend with. As we have just recently seen in California when their grid was on the verge of collapse and they were all but begging EV owners to hold off charging when possible. What do they think will happen when there are 50+ million EV's out there and the additional strain they will put on the nation's grid? Unless there is massive updates made to the grid it won't be pretty. What about the environmental impact caused by mining the rare earth minerals needed to produce many of the components in the batteries alone? Oh sure the care produces no carbon itself, but how many additional hundreds of millions of tons of carbon would produced in the mining, refining, distribution, manufacturing, and increased power generation needed to support them on the scale they are wanting? All this for a EV that in most cases cannot make it 200 miles per charge under current battery technology. One of the guys I work with has a Tesla 3 and has the 82Kw battery upgrade and he says he usually gets just over 200 miles per charge. He told me it takes 6-10 hours to charge it it back up daily and that his electric bill has increased on average $70 a month since getting the car.

IC powered vehicles are not going away any time soon, but eventually will be phased out due to state and federal gov. pressures. Even then it will be quite some time before EV's are ready for prime time.

Edited for truth.

 

[Trigganometry]

What charging stations will look like down the road, or carry your own supplies

 

[Msfitoy]

Will electric vehicles need a locking cap on the charging port? Can you "siphon" electric from the battery of one vehicle to another?

Punch hole under batteries and drain electric fluid to a catch can...

 

[Scooter]

While electric vehicles are compelling, there seems to be an inordinate number of them spontaneously catching fire.

Are Electric Vehicles Safe?

Since there are far fewer EVs, I wonder what the percentage of spontaneous fires in them compared to gas vehicles would be?

Burning Down The House.

This is all we need is more Fires

A California couple's Tesla caught fire while charging overnight, ignited another Tesla next to it, and caused a massive house fire. They haven't been home in 8 months. (msn.com)

 

[Doc]

Punch hole under batteries and drain electric fluid to a catch can...

UPR ?

 

[wanted33]

I have no problem with EV's. But as usual the government, and manufacturers is getting the cart before the horse. There should be amply charging stations across the country, and vehicles should charge much faster. If you need to be across the country it shouldn't take you 3 days longer, because you can't find a charger or you have to wait to long for the vehicle to charge. And of course the range of the batteries has got to be improved. Having to stop in 300-350 miles is not an optimal range for those that travel for a living. IMHO

BTW, has any of these EV advocates even considered the power grids. I live in the Historic District in our town. If 2/3rd's of the people on my small part of a very old power grid plug their vehicles in the same time, I doubt very seriously with all the other electrical drains, that the grid could handle the load.

And another thing. I have a lot of questions. Is there anywhere these batteries can be recycled when they are done. Or, is it gonna be like those stupid fluorescent squiggly light bulbs brought to us by George Bush the younger?

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