2019 Ranger Seats

[FLRangerDriver]

I own a 2019 Ranger XLT - 2 wheel drive. On the 20th of December 2020, I was hit from behind by a drunk driver. The police estimate he was going 60 mph, I was at a standstill. During the crash, the driver and passenger seatbacks of my truck broke. I was sitting pretty close to straight up, after the crash, my seat was laying on the back seat.

My question is, is this suppose to happen? Seems really odd to me? Any insight would be great.

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[wanted33]

MaLinda, being an old Cop I've seen my share of wrecks. And, yes it happens. There is a lot of force put on seat backs in a rear end collision. So, if you were hit in the rear at approx. 60 mph while at a dead stop, I would have been surprised if the seat backs didn't break. I'm just glad you're still here to ask the question.

Welcome to the forum.

 

[FLRangerDriver]

MaLinda, being an old Cop I've seen my share of wrecks. And, yes it happens. The is a lot of force put on seat backs in a rear end collision. So, if you were hit in the rear at approx. 60 mph while at a dead stop, I would have been surprised if the seat backs didn't break. I'm just glad you're still here to ask the question.

Welcome to the forum.

Thank you for the information. I thought that, but wanted to make sure. I firmly believe that truck saved my life. I will never own anything but a Ford. "Built Ford Tough"

 

[wanted33]

Thank you for the information. I thought that, but wanted to make sure. I firmly believe that truck saved my life. I will never own anything but a Ford. "Built Ford Tough"

You are welcome.

 

[RANGER_MARC]

MaLinda, being an old Cop I've seen my share of wrecks. And, yes it happens. The is a lot of force put on seat backs in a rear end collision. So, if you were hit in the rear at approx. 60 mph while at a dead stop, I would have been surprised if the seat backs didn't break. I'm just glad you're still here to ask the question.

Welcome to the forum.

Wow, yeah, better the seat should break than the driver!

 

[RoadtripsOfUnusualSize]

Any insight would be great.

Here's some: You're fortunate to be alive. Make good use of the second chance you've been given.

 

[VAMike]

Wow, yeah, better the seat should break than the driver!

For the front seat passengers it's probably a win, absorbing some force. But what about the back seat passengers...?

 

[wanted33]

For the front seat passengers it's probably a win, absorbing some force. But what about the back seat passengers...?

They won't be happy Mike. It's really not the ideal situation for the seat back brackets to break. It's much safer for the driver, or passenger if they don't. But, they can only take so much force until they break. It's not a common thing for them to break, as most rear end collisions include the vehicle struck to move forward lessening the amount of pressure on the brackets. But, with a 60 mph hit all bets are off the table. The hit is so fast with so much force the brackets will break before the struck vehicle can move.

 

[Deleted member 1634]

Seat testing is long and tedious because it's a dynamic condition with so many variables involved. I have no doubt there's a "rear ended condition" in the testing, analysis, and certification. But one at 60mph may be outside of the spectrum they consider since it's something that probably happens so rarely. That's a heck of a lot of force to be considered. The seats probably wouldn't have broken at 45mph or something like that. Like others have said, the seat worked as designed to save your life, even though it was probably outside of the considered spectrum.

 

[P. A. Schilke]

Seat testing is long and tedious because it's a dynamic condition with so many variables involved. I have no doubt there's a "rear ended condition" in the testing, analysis, and certification. But one at 60mph may be outside of the spectrum they consider since it's something that probably happens so rarely. That's a heck of a lot of force to be considered. The seats probably wouldn't have broken at 45mph or something like that. Like others have said, the seat worked as designed to save your life, even though it was probably outside of the considered spectrum.

Hi Matt,

There is a rear crash test and static seat back requirement. FMVSS 301. The rear crash is at 30 mph of a stationary vehicle hit in the rear at 30mph. There is debate of the effectiveness of the rear crash test as it is not a simple matter of just stregthening the seat back....Seems to be that more development testing is required before promulgating a revision to 301...

Best,
Phil Schilke
Ranger Vehicle Engineering
Ford Motor Co. Retired

 

[FLRangerDriver]

Seat testing is long and tedious because it's a dynamic condition with so many variables involved. I have no doubt there's a "rear ended condition" in the testing, analysis, and certification. But one at 60mph may be outside of the spectrum they consider since it's something that probably happens so rarely. That's a heck of a lot of force to be considered. The seats probably wouldn't have broken at 45mph or something like that. Like others have said, the seat worked as designed to save your life, even though it was probably outside of the considered spectrum.

thank you for the information.

 

[FLRangerDriver]

Hi Matt,

There is a rear crash test and static seat back requirement. FMVSS 301. The rear crash is at 30 mph of a stationary vehicle hit in the rear at 30mph. There is debate of the effectiveness of the rear crash test as it is not a simple matter of just stregthening the seat back....Seems to be that more development testing is required before promulgating a revision to 301...

Best,
Phil Schilke
Ranger Vehicle Engineering
Ford Motor Co. Retired

Phil, this is great information. I appreciate your explanation. Thank you

 

[FLRangerDriver]

Phil, this is great information. I appreciate your explanation. Thank you

There are a lot of technical papers written about this subject. I have a lot of reading to do. Thanks again for the information.

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