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[Mokume]

I like the styling of the Frontier. Unfortunately, Nissan is on the no fly list for us, so never got a look when was out shopping recently.

My wife had a 2005 Mercedes SLK350 that was the apple of her eye. Unfortunately, after a few years it developed an electrical/FI problem Mercedes couldn't fix. They ended up buying it back from us, so after my wife got over the grief, agreed maybe she would do better with a Japanese car. We went out and found the Infiniti EX35 that she liked and we bought it. What a freaking mistake. That car had more things go wrong with it in the first 30K miles than any modern car I have ever owned. Nissan earned the no-fly spot so soundly, it won't ever make it back onto our shopping list.

Very unusual for a Nissan product, but anything is possible, I suppose.

A family member made a terrible mistake of buying a new 2017 Dodge (for the garage) Charger on impulse. He tells me that within the first 3 months it suffered from so many electrical system issues to the point where the POS was lemon lawed.

He now drives a '18 4Runner and is quite happy with it...

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[AutobotXJ]

I think the new Frontiers look like a lego kit. I think they went overboard with the blockiness. The interior looks nice though. I would have looked into the Frontier if it were available in 2020- their previous version was solid though dated.

 

[Mokume]

The dealer I test drove at was asking $5k over sticker.

LOL, while perusing FB marketplace for a newer Honda CR-V, a dealership was asking 20K for a used 2010 model...

My exact response to the salesman was:
"Brah, what kine drugs you on? must be some good shit! I like try some too"

I was still laughing when he hung up on me.

 

[deleriumtremor]

Very unusual for a Nissan product, but anything is possible, I suppose.

A family member made a terrible mistake of buying a new 2017 Dodge (for the garage) Charger on impulse. He tells me that within the first 3 months it suffered from so many electrical system issues to the point where the POS was lemon lawed.

He now drives a '18 4Runner and is quite happy with it...

I only have that one EX35 to go on, but we had a lot of things happen which just shouldn't happen in a modern car in the first 30K. (cracked radiator, broken serpentine belt, failed water pump, etc.).

In addition, that thing had terrible visibility caused by the A-pillar design and placement. When we first got it, I literally almost ran over a few different pedestrians as they stepped off the curb into the crosswalk ahead of me. After we learned about that blind spot, we would be rubber necking like crazy at every stop sign, making sure there wasn't someone about to walk in front of us, out of the A-pillar blind spot.

Frankly, my wife and I both hated that car.

 

[Cabose-1]

I think the new Frontiers look like a lego kit. I think they went overboard with the blockiness. The interior looks nice though. I would have looked into the Frontier if it were available in 2020- their previous version was solid though dated.

I second the motion.
It looks like legos

 

[mokupilot]

When I was shopping around for a new Ranger at a particular dealer (we've just 3 in Honolulu) I was quoted an obscenely absurd markup on a '19 XLT that I almost told the salesperson to shove it.

Then I discovered Ford's X Plan on this forum, probably the best buying program for a new Ford ever.

If I find the '23 Ranger appealing, I'll certainly go that route again.

If they're still taking XPlan at that point, I can recommend Valley Isle Motors on Maui. The waiting was painful but they were way better than the Oahu guys. Paid 2K under sticker price, nothing added and they took it to the port to ship it to me.

 

[Trigganometry]

What I find amusing now is they all stamp the names into the tailgates just in the last few years. Gee, who started that trend…

 

[Mokume]

I only have that one EX35 to go on, but we had a lot of things happen which just shouldn't happen in a modern car in the first 30K. (cracked radiator, broken serpentine belt, failed water pump, etc.).

In addition, that thing had terrible visibility caused by the A-pillar design and placement. When we first got it, I literally almost ran over a few different pedestrians as they stepped off the curb into the crosswalk ahead of me. After we learned about that blind spot, we would be rubber necking like crazy at every stop sign, making sure there wasn't someone about to walk in front of us, out of the A-pillar blind spot.

Frankly, my wife and I both hated that car.

Wow, for those items to fail that quickly is unacceptable, I'd be leery of the car's dependability from that point on...

This brings to mind a new '69 Chrysler Town & Country wagon my Mother leased for 2 years.
Chrysler introduced "fuselage" styling that year so it's body design was new, but it still used unibody construction.

Basically the car was a lemon, it had numerous water leaks, doors which would not latch properly (amongst other hardware issues) and dozens of rattles and squeaks.

However the most hated attribute on that behemoth is that it was woefully underpowered, it had the standard equipment 383 2V mated to a Torquefite.

The car spent most of it's life at the dealership for them to sort out it's issues, as a result they provided her with a garden variety Valiant sedan as a loaner.
She hated the Chrysler so much that she told them to keep it and to let her finish the lease with a new Valiant instead.

They declined her proposal...

The Chrysler was replaced with a proper automobile, a '71 Country Squire with a 429 4V motor/C6 transmission, it was like a NHRA dragster compared to the Chrysler...lol

 

[deleriumtremor]

Wow, for those items to fail that quickly is unacceptable, I'd be leery of the car's dependability from that point on...

This brings to mind a new '69 Chrysler Town & Country wagon my Mother leased for 2 years.
Chrysler introduced "fuselage" styling that year so it's body design was new, but it still used unibody construction.

Basically the car was a lemon, it had numerous water leaks, doors which would not latch properly (amongst other hardware issues) and dozens of rattles and squeaks.

However the most hated attribute on that behemoth is that it was woefully underpowered, it had the standard equipment 383 2V mated to a Torquefite.

The car spent most of it's life at the dealership for them to sort out it's issues, as a result they provided her with a garden variety Valiant sedan as a loaner.
She hated the Chrysler so much that she told them to keep it and to let her finish the lease with a new Valiant instead.

They declined her proposal...

The Chrysler was replaced with a proper automobile, a '71 Country Squire with a 429 4V motor/C6 transmission, it was like a NHRA dragster compared to the Chrysler...lol

It was crazy, but we had just come from a car that MBZ couldn't fix, so... I do think sometimes we get into a long tail kind of statistical situation which greatly warps reality of a given brand or model. While there is no doubt the EX35 wasn't a great design, the trouble we had likely wasn't a middle of the curve experience.

I actually totaled that car in a parking lot. I backed into the path of a guy in a 1T truck with big old steel aftermarket bumpers. He caved the left rear quarter panel in big time. I drove it home and to the body shop the next day. The estimator asked if my wife was fond of the car and I said, "not really." He said, "good, because they are going to total it". I said, "that will make my wife VERY happy". It did.

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