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The mental gymnastics some people will go through about spacers. Shesh

I eagerly await the rantings of airplanes spreading chem-trails and jimmy Hoffa is the pilot.

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If the spacers are used properly, that being using them to get a wheel with more positive offset than the vehicle it was designed for to have the offset the vehicle's OE wheels had, they are of little risk as long as all the proper steps are followed each time the spacers are put back on. But it is proven that using spacers to push the wheels out, or even just using negative offset wheels on a car that should have positive offset puts loads on the bearings they were not designed for.
 
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If the spacers are used properly, that being using them to get a wheel with more positive offset than the vehicle it was designed for to have the offset the vehicle's OE wheels had, they are of little risk as long as all the proper steps are followed each time the spares are put back on. But it is proven that using spacers to push the wheels out, or even just using negative offset wheels on a car that should have positive offset puts loads on the bearings they were not designed for.

Yes, we are aware of premature bearing wear out, simply the price of the game, but anytime one of the anecdotal critical failure incidents happens the less than critical thinkers come out of the wood work.

There are any number of things that caused that wheel to fly of up to and including buying forged chinese junk on ebay for $60 for 4.

If these types of events were anything but completely and utterly anecdotal, then companies would not sell them. I'm not talking about fly by night Chinese eBay/Amazon companies; I am talking about well established US companies (Stage 3 for example).

Sooner or later someone will be by with the strawman to toss in that negative 500 spacers are the same thing as negative 100 spacers. Cause that is just how they think.
 

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The question is , were these the good spacers and installed correctly ? They may very well have been.

The car driver really doesn't care at this point. The ambulance chasing lawyer will.
 

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The question is , were these the good spacers and installed correctly ? They may very well have been.
This guy's tires were sticking out past the side of his truck by at least 8 or 10 inches. I don't care if he had the best spacers ever made, an install like that is just wrong and this idiot deserves all litigation coming his way.

To me the stupid "muh tires stick out muh truck 10 inches" crowd is no better than the dumb import ricer crowd with "stanced" cars and useless cambers. Their vehicles don't work well at all and eventually someone gets hurt.
 


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I read that under the video when I saw it on Facebook earlier. They blamed a wheel spacer.
Never been a fan of spacers and this is probably why they’re illegal in my state anyway.
 

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Yes, we are aware of premature bearing wear out, simply the price of the game, but anytime one of the anecdotal critical failure incidents happens the less than critical thinkers come out of the wood work.

There are any number of things that caused that wheel to fly of up to and including buying forged chinese junk on ebay for $60 for 4.

If these types of events were anything but completely and utterly anecdotal, then companies would not sell them. I'm not talking about fly by night Chinese eBay/Amazon companies; I am talking about well established US companies (Stage 3 for example).

Sooner or later someone will be by with the strawman to toss in that negative 500 spacers are the same thing as negative 100 spacers. Cause that is just how they think.
If you look near the end of the video, as the wheel is flipping after hitting the car again, you see what appears to be the shiny flash of the rotor still attached to the wheel. That leans me to think outer bearing failure, so questioning the quality of the spacer is moot. I'm not saying there were not compounding issues with this owner's setup (cheap bearing, wrong grease for the load, etc), or even just really poor practices in maintaining it (repacking the bearings when needed, checking for play in bearings). I can't determine any of that without in person inspection.
 

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If you look near the end of the video, as the wheel is flipping after hitting the car again, you see what appears to be the shiny flash of the rotor still attached to the wheel. That leans me to think outer bearing failure, so questioning the quality of the spacer is moot. I'm not saying there were not compounding issues with this owner's setup (cheap bearing, wrong grease for the load, etc), or even just really poor practices in maintaining it (repacking the bearings when needed, checking for play in bearings). I can't determine any of that without in person inspection.
I get that you want to go with wheel bearings being packed and greased properly, but that vehicle does not use that style of bearing. It uses an entire hub assembly up front
 

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If you look near the end of the video, as the wheel is flipping after hitting the car again, you see what appears to be the shiny flash of the rotor still attached to the wheel. That leans me to think outer bearing failure, so questioning the quality of the spacer is moot. I'm not saying there were not compounding issues with this owner's setup (cheap bearing, wrong grease for the load, etc), or even just really poor practices in maintaining it (repacking the bearings when needed, checking for play in bearings). I can't determine any of that without in person inspection.
You've got eagle eyes!

I captured the tire in 2 frames and it appears you are correct. I see the disc brake rotor and possibly the caliper at 9 o'clock on the tire too!

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If you look near the end of the video, as the wheel is flipping after hitting the car again, you see what appears to be the shiny flash of the rotor still attached to the wheel. That leans me to think outer bearing failure, so questioning the quality of the spacer is moot. I'm not saying there were not compounding issues with this owner's setup (cheap bearing, wrong grease for the load, etc), or even just really poor practices in maintaining it (repacking the bearings when needed, checking for play in bearings). I can't determine any of that without in person inspection.
I get that you want to go with wheel bearings being packed and greased properly, but that vehicle does not use that style of bearing. It uses an entire hub assembly up front
Basic thing is that spacers and/or too much negative offset causes more stress on suspension components, leading to failure. My personal rule of thumb is don’t go past zero offset.
 
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I get that you want to go with wheel bearings being packed and greased properly, but that vehicle does not use that style of bearing. It uses an entire hub assembly up front
I'm not familiar with every suspension setup on any given vehicle, but generally hub style see even worse loads on the bearings as you move the wheel more negative from where it should be since the bearings are already all in board of the mounting surface for the wheel. All of my RWD cars were old 60-70s cars, so they had the brake hub more like you see on trailers, was good for maintaining them for years with just grease and a pack of bearings when needed. Everything I've owned 80s and newer has been Honda FWD/AWD or Ford AWD/4WD.
 
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I either slow down or speed up to get between the clumps. Speed isn't dangerous. But proximity and speed is deadly. As are high differential speeds.
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Saw an article online about this incident. They said the woman driving the KIA walked away from it. She is getting a new car and a retirement fund out of this one.
Glad to hear she’s alright.
 

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Saw an article online about this incident. They said the woman driving the KIA walked away from it. She is getting a new car and a retirement fund out of this one.
Glad to hear she's ok. I am sure she got banged up pretty good.
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