Toyo Open Country AT3 285/70/17 w/ level

[gwhalin]

You most definitely do not need a negative offset. Even a quarter inch spacer would push you out enough to make sure you have no rub on suspension. I went with aftermarket wheels and went to a +35 offset (stock is +55) and that gave me plenty of room. With any bumping out of the wheels though the odds of rubbing on crash bars increase.

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[OCL]

You're saying they'll definitely rub up front under what circumstances? Currently at full lock on flat surface forward and reverse there's no rub up front.

On flat surfaces.

 

[klem91]

You most definitely do not need a negative offset. Even a quarter inch spacer would push you out enough to make sure you have no rub on suspension. I went with aftermarket wheels and went to a +35 offset (stock is +55) and that gave me plenty of room. With any bumping out of the wheels though the odds of rubbing on crash bars increase.

Thanks. I'm going to get some small spacers and install the BDS intrusion beams (at least the front ones) just to be safe and see how it goes.

 

[Stangman570]

Please detail the issues you had with spacers and eventually the type of spacers you had. Thank you!

Sorry I've been busy and haven't checked the site in a bit. Issues I had with wheel spacers was they loosened up over time. As long as you keep up with them while rotating tires you should be fine. However, we had a guy in our local group who got in a bind and sheared off a couple of wheel studs trying to get out a deep hole.

 

[klem91]

Update for those interested: I've had some spacers installed and while the majority of the rubbing is gone, at full lock going forward there is still a small amount of rubbing on the sway bar.

Is a small amount of rubbing safe/tolerable or should I try to get a slightly wider spacer?

Here is what my clearance of the stock crash bars look like, plastic removed, pushed back at full lock.

 

[HotShotOffroad]

So we have a very similar set up on our Ranger build so hopefully we can shed some light on this issue for you!

Let us start by explaining what is currently on our build in regards to wheels tires and suspension.

Fox 2.0 Kit
Camburg UCA's
Icon Six Speed 17x8.5 +25
Toyo OC 285/70/17
Readylift High Clearance intrusion beams

We started the build off with the wheels and tires. We test fit a few options and found that a 17x8.5 +25 wheel combined with the Toyo OC 285/70/17 worked best for our desired set up. This was one of the safest bets we found to be able to run that size tire without rub and without adding spacers. On the stock wheel set up, spacers are typically used due to the backspacing and did cause rubbing on the knuckle. However, staying on stock suspension still had some rub.

We then swapped the fox kit in and also swapped our UCA's. Even though in most cases the UCA's are not needed for this set up, we do off road our build and we wanted to have the safety of swapping out the UCA's both for performance and just clearance in general for when we go larger here soon. But even with the suspension all set up, we still had rub at 3/4 crank as well as in full reverse. So we then took the stock crash bars out and put in the readylift high clearance bars. Now that those were swapped, we can go full crank without rub AND have no issues off-roading with rub. The only time we have had rub since is on the backside crash bars, in full reverse, at full crank, going up any slant or hill.

We can confirm that removing the bars completely with this set up would eliminate all rub except the possibility of the rear rub on the inner fender well where Ford put that big block of safety plastic.

Now for the spacers. At one point, we actually tried to add some faction fab 1.5" spacers to this set up. We wanted a more aggressive look without having to go full long travel at the moment. However, adding spacers to this set up actually caused rubbing on the front bars even after being replaced. We got them on, put the truck back down on the ground. did one full crank and instant rub. So on this set up, spacers will not work. Now if the bumper was swapped out, then it would've worked. but with stock bumper (even if bars were removed) rub would occur.

I hope this helps shed some light. Again this is just what we tested and found that works. There are other options out there for sure. But this fit our set up the best and we have loved it! About 2.5k miles on it and going strong. We will be swapping the suspension up again here come spring when some parts come in so we will update after that too!

If you get any more questions though please reach out to us! And for anyone interested, we will have some suspension kits on sale here soon so stay tuned.

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