Ranger Super Duty on Sale in Aus next year.

[Cmar]

3 litre V6 diesel, high payload and towing capacity, read it and weep guys. https://www.racv.com.au/royalauto/t...nger-super-duty-price-specs-release-date.html

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[JoeDop1]

Jealous!

 

[ctechbob]

I'd heard about this a few months ago.

Some of the weights in that article are suspect:

17,000 Pound GVWR? - The current NA Rangers are in the 12,500 pound range.

4000-4300 pounds payload? There are F250's that don't have that much.

Not saying it won't be a monster of a small truck, but I think whoever wrote that article missed on some of their fact checking.

Either that or Australia is getting a Superduty in disguise.

Ford seems to confirm the numbers though, so who knows.

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...25/04/04/ford-ranger-super-duty-revealed.html

 

[Cmar]

That's the point it IS a Super Duty Ranger version. And yes the issue of the F250 has already been raised here. But not really an issue because very few F250's are sold here. - too expensive.

 

[ctechbob]

That's the point it IS a Super Duty Ranger version. And yes the issue of the F250 has already been raised here. But not really an issue because very few F250's are sold here. - too expensive.

I get that.

What I'm asking is, how are they getting there.

The rear axle will need to be a completely bespoke unit since there's nothing currently out there that will handle that weight. It will need to be a full floater and those just don't exist even in an F150 sized truck. The heaviest one you can get in that size is a weird hybrid half floater design that they keep having to recall for broken bolts.

Same with the frame. Will have to be a completely new/custom unit. They'd only be able to use it on the SD's since it would probably be far too heavy to use on the 'regular' Ranger line, plus there are mentions of it being a bigger truck, so that won't work either.

And like you mentioned, it has to come cheaper than the bigger trucks (didn't even know those were available down under).

I keep meaning to look up the specs they mention here:

"Mid-size refers to vehicles within the PU/CC 4X4 category of the VFACTS Light Commercial Model Segment. "

I'd like to see just how big that vehicle can be and still hit those specs.

 

[TJC]

I'd heard about this a few months ago.

Some of the weights in that article are suspect:

17,000 Pound GVWR? - The current NA Rangers are in the 12,500 pound range.

4000-4300 pounds payload? There are F250's that don't have that much.

Not saying it won't be a monster of a small truck, but I think whoever wrote that article missed on some of their fact checking.

Either that or Australia is getting a Superduty in disguise.

Ford seems to confirm the numbers though, so who knows.

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...25/04/04/ford-ranger-super-duty-revealed.html

The USA and Canada are about the only place in the world with massively large pickups. Put the axles and beefy frames under a modern ranger with a strong drive train and you've got a nice 3/4 ton pickup. I'd actually prefer it over the USA Super Duty trucks.

 

[KNI]

I get that.

What I'm asking is, how are they getting there.

The rear axle will need to be a completely bespoke unit since there's nothing currently out there that will handle that weight. It will need to be a full floater and those just don't exist even in an F150 sized truck. The heaviest one you can get in that size is a weird hybrid half floater design that they keep having to recall for broken bolts.

Same with the frame. Will have to be a completely new/custom unit. They'd only be able to use it on the SD's since it would probably be far too heavy to use on the 'regular' Ranger line, plus there are mentions of it being a bigger truck, so that won't work either.

And like you mentioned, it has to come cheaper than the bigger trucks (didn't even know those were available down under).

I keep meaning to look up the specs they mention here:

"Mid-size refers to vehicles within the PU/CC 4X4 category of the VFACTS Light Commercial Model Segment. "

I'd like to see just how big that vehicle can be and still hit those specs.

From specs it looks to be just reinforced Ranger Raptor frame with leaf springs and snorkel.

 

[TJC]

From specs it looks to be just reinforced Ranger Raptor frame with leaf springs and snorkel.

Well that's not a real Super Duty at all!

 

[Friday yet?]

I am totally jealous. That Ranger checks every box for me. Would love that capability in the smaller package.

Need to talk to the Warden about moving to Australia.

 

[Cmar]

I get that.

What I'm asking is, how are they getting there.

The rear axle will need to be a completely bespoke unit since there's nothing currently out there that will handle that weight. It will need to be a full floater and those just don't exist even in an F150 sized truck. The heaviest one you can get in that size is a weird hybrid half floater design that they keep having to recall for broken bolts.

Same with the frame. Will have to be a completely new/custom unit. They'd only be able to use it on the SD's since it would probably be far too heavy to use on the 'regular' Ranger line, plus there are mentions of it being a bigger truck, so that won't work either.

And like you mentioned, it has to come cheaper than the bigger trucks (didn't even know those were available down under).

I keep meaning to look up the specs they mention here:

"Mid-size refers to vehicles within the PU/CC 4X4 category of the VFACTS Light Commercial Model Segment. "

I'd like to see just how big that vehicle can be and still hit those specs.

Sure thing no problem. Yes it will be classed as a light truck here in Aus, but because of the payload and towing capability, physically it will be about the size of a standard ranger.

Yes the front and rear diffs are bespoke items basically F250 in a shortened housing for the rear, and a bigger specced unit from the front with strengthened mounting.
The frame is the same but stamped from thicker section steel, with extra bracing where needed. If you look closely you will notice 8 stud wheels. The it has full under body protection in 5mm steel plate. The springs are significantly larger than a standard ranger.
Yes we do get RAM trucks, GM Silverado's Toyota Tundra's and F150, 250's etc over here BUT, they are imported as new trucks from the US in LHD and locally converted to RHD by factory approved second tier manufacturers, and then sold through the relevant dealerships as new factory cars. This makes them very expensive, so this unit will easily undercut that market, as the proposed price premium for this is only about $5-10,000 over the current top of the range Ranger.

Here's a walk around ( excuse the reviewers somewhat annoying style)

Here's a better one

 

[Cmar]

The really funny thing is that for the RAMS they actually completely dismantle the front of the truck and remove the firewall, replacing it with a locally made bespoke RHD one, replace the wiring loom with a new one, the instruments are replaced with Canadian metric units in a locally made mirror dash, and they properly reset the front suspension geometry for driving on the right, and fix a few other gremlins that RAM trucks are know for, in doing this, the locally re-manufactured RAMS are allegedly better units than factory units from the US!
But all this pushes the price to ~ $110,000 Aud for a basic 1500 - 180,000+ for a 2500 top of the range whereas the new Ranger Super duty will sell for about $80,000 which makes it a bargain if you don't need the extra size , just the increased towing capacity or payload.

 

[Grandaccess]

They put the wheel on the wrong side....
is the hitch in the front?

 

[V12 Verado]

Well, I could never afford that, but WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

They put the wheel on the wrong side....
is the hitch in the front?

An Aussie plumber did the work on my place - you should see how that turned out.

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

The really funny thing is that for the RAMS they actually completely dismantle the front of the truck and remove the firewall, replacing it with a locally made bespoke RHD one, replace the wiring loom with a new one, the instruments are replaced with Canadian metric units in a locally made mirror dash, and they properly reset the front suspension geometry for driving on the right, and fix a few other gremlins that RAM trucks are know for, in doing this, the locally re-manufactured RAMS are allegedly better units than factory units from the US!
But all this pushes the price to ~ $110,000 Aud for a basic 1500 - 180,000+ for a 2500 top of the range whereas the new Ranger Super duty will sell for about $80,000 which makes it a bargain if you don't need the extra size , just the increased towing capacity or payload.

$80,000 AUD? Wow, that’s about $72,000 CAD and around $52,000 USD.

In Canada, that’s $10,000 cheaper than a Ranger Raptor. Import duty on foreign-made vehicles here is 6.1% but that‘s waived under the CPTPP.

Most importantly, there’s a SuperCab configuration. I’ll take one in every colour please!

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