Pet Peeves

[Tracy Bowman]

Very sad that some dealiars have to under perform on customer service. But I for one have a very good dealer that treats me with respect and go over and above my expectations .
When I had the oil changed the other day I asked that they check balance with road force machine and they did this at no cost. I feel very Blessed to have such a relationship with them.

The dealership that services my Ranger is terrific! No complaints at all.

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[GregM]

The dealership that services my Ranger is terrific! No complaints at all.

Isn't it a relieved feeling not having to put up with some of the services that some folk have had to .
Very Happy for you Tracy

 

[Tracy Bowman]

Isn't it a relieved feeling not having to put up with some of the services that some folk have had to .
Very Happy for you Tracy

Believe me, I've had some experiences over the years. But, thankfully, we have a great dealership now that we deal with.

 

[TJC]

Well yall are assuming I am talking about leaving from a red light. Not the case. I actually drive very conservatively, and rarely ever do Jack-rabbit starts. To me the Auto stop-start does not work well at all and combined with lag in fly-by-wire throttle, becomes dangerous to use. I hate it and I intend to find out how to disable it permanently.

Another thing I want to fix is keeping the fog lights on when the high beams turn on. Currently the fogs turn off, and I want them to stay on. AND I want to disable the auto high beams / low beams switch from happening too. I admit to being old school. I want to drive the truck myself and not have all this stuff bothering me endlessly.

I know that I am late to this discussion, but I have to speak up here. I understand exactly what flyfisher is talking about. When I transitioned from a 2005 4.0L V6 XLT 4x4 Edge Ranger to my new 2020 XLT Sport Ranger, I noticed immediately at traffic intersections that throttle response lagged a second or two at takeoff. So much so that on heavy traffic days I was reluctant (and still am) to time my entrance into the traffic flow. My 2005 Ranger has immediate throttle control (and BTW is mechanical), and timing can easily be discerned even in high traffic flows. I do not trust the new Ranger to move when I push the gas pedal, esp from a full stop. It has to think about it before it moves. I have noticed the same behavior when passing. There is a definite slow response to throttle.

It very nearly got me killed when I attempted to cross a busy 4 lane highway thinking I could safely time my move. What works in my old 2005 Ranger DOES NOT work in my 2020 Ranger.

I believe it has to do with multiple issues,

1 - drive by wire(DRW), although my 2003 V6 Nissan Maxima has DBW and it does not exhibit this behavior.

2 - Smallish 2.3l turbo engine. No turbo boost = sluggish engine. And it takes a second or two to spool up.

3 - EPA shenanigans forcing Ford to optimize for fuel economy over safety and driving optimizations

Auto Stop Start only magnifies the issue. I turned ASS off permanently using an inline module (between the switch and the plug) that remembers the last setting.

I think "ASS" is the appropriate acronym for "Auto Stop Start"!

Finally I used Forscan to set my fog lights to stay on when high beams are actuated. I also turned off the fake engine noise over the speakers. I prefer a quiet truck over a poor v6 or V8 simulation. I also turned on Terrain Management (added the TM switch prior - 5 minute swap) and the off road angle display.

$35 well spent for the USB to port adapter for my laptop. As soon as the Russian business embargo by the USA ceases, I'm sending those ForScan developers a bonus!

I believe that Flyfisher made valid points on throttle response and ASS. Even with ASS off I wait until traffic is completely clear before moving my 2020 Ranger. My 2005 Ranger is much safer in this regard.

- T

 

[JimJa]

Tony, I have a '19 Ranger, with 44K miles. I have not experienced the throttle delay you've experienced. You might try driving in Sport mode just to see if the delay you notice is still present (Sport mode also disables ASS). If so, then perhaps the engine Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) is at fault. There may be an adjustment on the sensor, but I'm not familiar with it if there is.

I don't believe it's a turbo spool up issue as Ford typically does not provide boost until 2nd gear on their 4-cyl turbo engines. I have an RS and there is no boost when hammered in 1st. An OBD port connected device wirelessly to my phone indicates the same for the Ranger.

 

[Doc]

I know that I am late to this discussion, but I have to speak up here. I understand exactly what flyfisher is talking about. When I transitioned from a 2005 4.0L V6 XLT 4x4 Edge Ranger to my new 2020 XLT Sport Ranger, I noticed immediately at traffic intersections that throttle response lagged a second or two at takeoff. So much so that on heavy traffic days I was reluctant (and still am) to time my entrance into the traffic flow. My 2005 Ranger has immediate throttle control (and BTW is mechanical), and timing can easily be discerned even in high traffic flows. I do not trust the new Ranger to move when I push the gas pedal, esp from a full stop. It has to think about it before it moves. I have noticed the same behavior when passing. There is a definite slow response to throttle.

It very nearly got me killed when I attempted to cross a busy 4 lane highway thinking I could safely time my move. What works in my old 2005 Ranger DOES NOT work in my 2020 Ranger.

I believe it has to do with multiple issues,

1 - drive by wire(DRW), although my 2003 V6 Nissan Maxima has DBW and it does not exhibit this behavior.

2 - Smallish 2.3l turbo engine. No turbo boost = sluggish engine. And it takes a second or two to spool up.

3 - EPA shenanigans forcing Ford to optimize for fuel economy over safety and driving optimizations

Auto Stop Start only magnifies the issue. I turned ASS off permanently using an inline module (between the switch and the plug) that remembers the last setting.

I think "ASS" is the appropriate acronym for "Auto Stop Start"!

Finally I used Forscan to set my fog lights to stay on when high beams are actuated. I also turned off the fake engine noise over the speakers. I prefer a quiet truck over a poor v6 or V8 simulation. I also turned on Terrain Management (added the TM switch prior - 5 minute swap) and the off road angle display.

$35 well spent for the USB to port adapter for my laptop. As soon as the Russian business embargo by the USA ceases, I'm sending those ForScan developers a bonus!

I believe that Flyfisher made valid points on throttle response and ASS. Even with ASS off I wait until traffic is completely clear before moving my 2020 Ranger. My 2005 Ranger is much safer in this regard.

- T

Get a tune…

 

[TJC]

I use the steering wheel to help my old knees out when I climb into my 4x4 using the step bar.

Best,
Phil Schilke

The AMP Power Steps are perfect height for ease of entry/exit. We find the 2020 Ranger much easier to enter than our 2005 Ranger. In fact I went to AMp to see if I could purchase some for the old Ranger. No Dice! I really can't recommend them highly enough for the 5G Rangers! They were expensive, but worth the cost.

-T

 

[deleriumtremor]

The AMP Power Steps are perfect height for ease of entry/exit. We find the 2020 Ranger much easier to enter than our 2005 Ranger. In fact I went to AMp to see if I could purchase some for the old Ranger. No Dice! I really can't recommend them highly enough for the 5G Rangers! They were expensive, but worth the cost.

-T

Totally agree.

I just cancelled my order for a set of Amp Powersteps for my 2022 XLT as I found out the estimated ship date when I ordered was a little (cough, cough), optimistic. Their latest estimated ship date says I won't be getting them before an upcoming surgery and don't want them sitting around for a few months until I will get to installing them, but as soon as I am feeling 100% again, I will re-order them.

I had them on my last GM 1/2 pickup and absolutely loved them. They literally work flawlessly and drop the step exactly where you want it to allow you to land in the seat without a big head duck, etc.

 

[Motorpsychology]

I don't believe it's a turbo spool up issue as Ford typically does not provide boost until 2nd gear on their 4-cyl turbo engines. I have an RS and there is no boost when hammered in 1st. An OBD port connected device wirelessly to my phone indicates the same for the Ranger.
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To me, the power delay from 0rpm (ASS activated) to usable power for completing a left turn on a yellow light is about the same as that in a normally aspirated vehicle with a manual.

 

[NotBudule]

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I do not trust the new Ranger to move when I push the gas pedal, esp from a full stop. It has to think about it before it moves. I have noticed the same behavior when passing. There is a definite slow response to throttle.

It very nearly got me killed when I attempted to cross a busy 4 lane highway thinking I could safely time my move.

I believe that Flyfisher made valid points on throttle response and ASS. Even with ASS off I wait until traffic is completely clear before moving my 2020 Ranger. My 2005 Ranger is much safer in this regard.

- T

opposite for me , I'm whipping out in front of people left and right , never would have in my old truck ... well , i still did , I just didn't care if they hit me ... now I care if they hit me , but they can't catch up TO hit me ... but I'd trade. any truck in a heartbeat if I didn't trust it ...

 

[TJC]

General response to all who commented on slow throttle response of my 2020 Ranger. Thank you for your insights and suggestions. They are appreciated.

I purchased the truck new, and have 12K miles on it. Tune up should not be needed this early. I see no codes being thrown, and everything appears to be functioning as designed. There is no stumbling or misfires at all. Fuel mileage is above 25 mpg, and has been as high 28.5 mpg in extended trips.

re: Get a tune
If you mean purchase a 3rd party custom tune that over writes the default timing and fuel ratio maps from Ford specs, I'll pass. I 've seen too many "tunes" push the envelope just enough so that engine life is compromised.

(I have a 3rd party ECU with wideband O2 sensors that I installed in my turbo'ed 1993 Miata, which gives me full access to the fuel and timing settings in all rpm ranges, and conditions. I am keenly aware of what can go wrong when target settings are simply too aggressive, even slightly so.)

I believe that the 2020 Ranger is operating normally, as designed. I have learned the nature of the beast and have adapted my driving technique to compensate accordingly. I like the 2020 Ranger a great deal. But I also very much like the simplicity and direct feel of the 2005 Ranger as well. We'll continue to drive them both - within their design limitations.

 

[NotBudule]

I believe that the 2020 Ranger is operating normally, as designed.

If you can't pull out in traffic unless nothing is coming , it is NOT operating normally... or your not ...

 

[TJC]

opposite for me , I'm whipping out in front of people left and right , never would have in my old truck ... well , i still did , I just didn't care if they hit me ... now I care if they hit me , but they can't catch up TO hit me ... but I'd trade. any truck in a heartbeat if I didn't trust it ...

Once my Ranger is moving it is much quicker and faster than my 2005 Ranger, It is simply the initial pedal response from stand still to movement. Their is perhaps a .25 to .5 second delay from "pedal press" to "go fast" that does not exist in my slower less quick 2005 Ranger. It is enough of a delay that the traffic closes before I attain enough speed to be comfortable. My wife has also noticed and commented to me about the difference between the two.

 

[TJC]

If you can't pull out in traffic unless nothing is coming , it is NOT operating normally... or your not ...

Let's just say I am less comfortable pulling out into heavy traffic with the 2020 Ranger than I am with the 2005 Ranger or my Maxima. I give the 2020 Ranger much more space between traffic than either of the other 2 vehicles.

I have not been driving in Sport mode at all. I may try that as well

Maybe I'll go test drive another new ranger and see if the same behavior exists.

T

 

[AzScorpion]

Let's just say I am less comfortable pulling out into heavy traffic with the 2020 Ranger than I am with the 2005 Ranger or my Maxima.

Maybe I'll go test drive another new ranger and see if the same behavior exists.

T

If you already haven't try dropping it in S mode and then pull out. There's no way you should feel more comfortable pulling out in a 2005 Ranger than a new one.

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