Just SOME of the Warnings I Got Today

[Kevarmy79]

Well, Dealer spent 3 days doing system testing and test drives and could not determine the cause. No repeat of the warnings since first event. Will test drive with technician today and bring it home. Since this is a a Lease and not a purchase, will Ford treat it as a Rental and swap it out at some point or am I stuck with it for the entire Lease period?

You're stuck with it. I leased a Ranger XLT on Oct 31, 2019, and have had the same thing happen multiple times on a weekly basis. Mine also sometimes drives away after putting the gear shift into park, my 4x4 low range locks up the wheels and won't move, and I can only tow about a Max weight of 3500-4000 lbs, any more and it stalls the engine. It's been at two dealerships a combined total of 11 times now, they say there is nothing wrong because there are no diagnostic error codes. However, when I run a diagnostic with my scanner or my brother's scanner (his is a very similar system to the one the dealerships have), we get a message saying x-amount of error codes cleared, followed by the date they were cleared. The only solution they have tried is to cut the hot wire, without telling me they did so, going to the orange led lights on my hood guard, and that guard was purchased on the Ford accessories website and professionally installed. It connects to the market lights on the fenders, which does not follow the same electrical path as any of the sensors that affect all those warning systems. Not to mention the truck was malfunctioning since the day I brought it home and that hood guard was added 2 months later. Ford customer care is absolutely useless. I have several witness statements describing what others have when the malfunctions occur, I even have some cell phone video of some of it. Ford says that they DO NOT take witness statements or owner statements when conducting their "investigation" into "owner identified issues." They will only look at service records uploaded from a Ford certified dealership, and if they feel it relevant they will reach out to a service manager for a statement.
Basically ford doesn't care, the dealerships don't care, the techs aren't real mechanics (as can easily be proven, just ask them what spider gears are or what it means if you find grease in your front/rear differential when draining the gear lube. I've yet to find one ford tech that can answer that without Google). Sorry to say, you're stuck, unless you have enough money to pay for a good lawyer and a long dragged out fight in court.

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[chasvs]

You're stuck with it. I leased a Ranger XLT on Oct 31, 2019, and have had the same thing happen multiple times on a weekly basis. Mine also sometimes drives away after putting the gear shift into park, my 4x4 low range locks up the wheels and won't move, and I can only tow about a Max weight of 3500-4000 lbs, any more and it stalls the engine. It's been at two dealerships a combined total of 11 times now, they say there is nothing wrong because there are no diagnostic error codes. However, when I run a diagnostic with my scanner or my brother's scanner (his is a very similar system to the one the dealerships have), we get a message saying x-amount of error codes cleared, followed by the date they were cleared. The only solution they have tried is to cut the hot wire, without telling me they did so, going to the orange led lights on my hood guard, and that guard was purchased on the Ford accessories website and professionally installed. It connects to the market lights on the fenders, which does not follow the same electrical path as any of the sensors that affect all those warning systems. Not to mention the truck was malfunctioning since the day I brought it home and that hood guard was added 2 months later. Ford customer care is absolutely useless. I have several witness statements describing what others have when the malfunctions occur, I even have some cell phone video of some of it. Ford says that they DO NOT take witness statements or owner statements when conducting their "investigation" into "owner identified issues." They will only look at service records uploaded from a Ford certified dealership, and if they feel it relevant they will reach out to a service manager for a statement.
Basically ford doesn't care, the dealerships don't care, the techs aren't real mechanics (as can easily be proven, just ask them what spider gears are or what it means if you find grease in your front/rear differential when draining the gear lube. I've yet to find one ford tech that can answer that without Google). Sorry to say, you're stuck, unless you have enough money to pay for a good lawyer and a long dragged out fight in court.

Never had the issue again. It’s been flawless since the one and only incident!

 

[Kevarmy79]

I might suggest to check the electrical connector under the left headlight...hard to get to but I found mine was not connected solidly. One handed pinch and I heard the click of a seated connector....now the forward parking sensors came alive again.

Best,
Phil Schilke
Ranger Vehicle Engineering
Ford Motor Co. - Retired

I've suggested that to the dealership after reading your post above and they have told me that connector is for something else, not for any of the sensors in question. I don't have the dexterity in my arthritic hands to get to it unless I remove the headlight housing, which I don't want to bother with. It looks like there is a fastener that is supposed to hold the harness in place, but on mine the harness just bounces around freely, not held down by anything except the tension if the wires. The dealership just keeps cutting the hot wire to the orange led lights, from Ford accessories website, that are on my hood guard. They've cut it twice now without telling me. There is 0 voltage drop from when the lights aren't hooked up to when they are, and they've been tested numerous times and show no signs of a short so it's not possible for the led lights to be causing any issues. And they are connected to the fender marker lights lead, which is in a completely different circuit block than all the sensors and warning systems.

 

[Kevarmy79]

Never had the issue again. It’s been flawless since the one and only incident!

You're lucky then. I live in North Dakota and there have been a lot of people reporting the same issue. Both dealerships I've been to have asked if I park it inside at night and I've said no, because I don't have a garage. I was told that maybe the best solution to fix the issue is to get a garage or ask a neighbor if I can park in their's because the cold weather and driving through snow is maybe affecting it. That confuses me because why would any company sell a product in North Dakota if they know it won't function properly in cold temps. Of course, it's spring now, no snow, warmer weather, and mine is still malfunctioning.
You wanna trade!!!

 

[caprtaineddie]

I had numerous problems with a 2016 GMC Canyon and got pretty much the same help from the dealerships and General Motors: "Your truck isn't showing any codes, so there's nothing we can do." I traded the truck for my current Ranger, so seeing these posts kinda scares me.

 

[RedlandRanger]

I had numerous problems with a 2016 GMC Canyon and got pretty much the same help from the dealerships and General Motors: "Your truck isn't showing any codes, so there's nothing we can do." I traded the truck for my current Ranger, so seeing these posts kinda scares me.

Need to find a better dealership service department. There are still real mechanics out there - as time goes on, they get harder to find, but they DO exist.

 

[Michael360wa]

While driving to work today I got several warnings and Adaptive Cruise Control was Not Available, Pre-Collision Assist Not Available, Hill Assist not Available, Service AdvanceTrac, ABS Warning Light, Stability Control Warning Light came on and MORE!

When I started it back up later the warnings were still present and I decided to drive to the Dealer to have it checked out. On the way I had to make a hard U-Turn and all Warnings Cleared!!!! So strange!

While driving to work today I got several warnings and Adaptive Cruise Control was Not Available, Pre-Collision Assist Not Available, Hill Assist not Available, Service AdvanceTrac, ABS Warning Light, Stability Control Warning Light came on and MORE!

When I started it back up later the warnings were still present and I decided to drive to the Dealer to have it checked out. On the way I had to make a hard U-Turn and all Warnings Cleared!!!! So strange!

I am having the same issue. I have a service appointment set for next week.

 

[chasvs]

I am having the same issue. I have a service appointment set for next week.

I brought it in, they checked it out for 3 days and found nothing to cause it. It's never happened again!

 

[GTGallop]

My collision avoidance comes on at times when I wouldn't expect it to. To be fair I was approaching solid objects in tight traffic so it may have been with in Ford's Operating Spec but it scares the shit out of me, I look at the dash and devote far too much attention trying to figure out whey the truck is screaming at me instead of avoiding an accident.

Let me put it differently. My wife is one of those Nervous Ninnies that rides shotgun but with her foot on the emergency passenger brake and making noises like sucking air in and then points across the dashboard at phantom things and bleating out like a sheep getting poked with a branding iron. AND EVEN SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHY THE FORD ALARM WAS GOING OFF.

The firs time a guy was tailgating me. I was aware and paying more attention to him than I probably should have. The collision assist went off as we went through an intersection, I thought there was cross traffic and jammed on the brakes. Guy behind me locks up his wheels and slides into the shoulder / shallow ditch. I kept going and see him pull back out OK. But in a police report had he had an accident, I would have been flagged as aggressive driving because I took unnecessary aggressive maneuvers and caused his accident. Muther F'ing hate that collision assist warning and would shove it straight up Henry's ass if I knew where he was buried.

 

[Michael360wa]

I brought it in, they checked it out for 3 days and found nothing to cause it. It's never happened again!

Mine is doing it every start.

 

[LightingBlue]

It's almost a shame that with these modern cars and the LED screens, we can't play "dashboard bingo". It's a game invented in the Rover community as their warning lights are arranged in a 5x5 grid of lights in the center of the dash.

Any time you can connect an unbroken string of 5 warning lights (in any orientation) you win the prize of having to go to the dealership and spend thousands of dollars to pull the bulbs out of the area giving the warning... If you can make it to the dealership.


Sigh, we will never know that joy of trying to keep the vehicle running long enough to collect all 5 in a row.

 

[GTGallop]

"would shove it straight up Henry's ass if I knew where he was buried "

and Henry had what to do with it??
this is like blaming Lincoln for what Trump does.

Don't take it too literally. It just conveys a level of disgust and disappointment that transcends the reasonable and rational. If you understand that it's like blaming Lincoln for what Trump does then you know how unhappy I am with it.

Too Many NANNIES! And this one can't be shut off.

 

[Arc Ranger]

My collision avoidance comes on at times when I wouldn't expect it to. To be fair I was approaching solid objects in tight traffic so it may have been with in Ford's Operating Spec but it scares the shit out of me, I look at the dash and devote far too much attention trying to figure out whey the truck is screaming at me instead of avoiding an accident.

Let me put it differently. My wife is one of those Nervous Ninnies that rides shotgun but with her foot on the emergency passenger brake and making noises like sucking air in and then points across the dashboard at phantom things and bleating out like a sheep getting poked with a branding iron. AND EVEN SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHY THE FORD ALARM WAS GOING OFF.

The firs time a guy was tailgating me. I was aware and paying more attention to him than I probably should have. The collision assist went off as we went through an intersection, I thought there was cross traffic and jammed on the brakes. Guy behind me locks up his wheels and slides into the shoulder / shallow ditch. I kept going and see him pull back out OK. But in a police report had he had an accident, I would have been flagged as aggressive driving because I took unnecessary aggressive maneuvers and caused his accident. Muther F'ing hate that collision assist warning and would shove it straight up Henry's ass if I knew where he was buried.

I agree with you 100%. I've had that pre-collision warning come on twice, beeping and flashing red on top of the dashboard and I was like wtf is going on?! Talk about a distraction! In both cases there was no possibility of an impending crash about to happen, unless you consider me swerving off the road due to the chaos of lights and noises going off in the truck. Flawed technology much...

 

[Black Knight]

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[Michael360wa]

Mine is doing it every start.

It stopped after three days and the service appt is in two days. I was hoping that it would continue until the tech had it in front of him/her.

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