Is the Patagonia AT Pro the perfect tire?

[idahofarmboy]

What!?! You can't sleep in a metal container in the middle of the ocean next to a nuclear reactor and bombs? ?
I guess it's not for everyone ?‍

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[idahofarmboy]

I've never been rock crawling either, but the White Rim Road in Canyonlands National Park is on my bucket list and I'm building this truck to handle the 100 mile trail. I'm hoping to go in spring 2026 so these tires will need to handle it.

 

[SDXLT]

Did you get the Milestars @idahofarmboy ? If yes did you go with the E rated? I’m looking at these as well and would appreciate if you could share any thoughts if you bought them

 

[lazynorse]

I've never been rock crawling either, but the White Rim Road in Canyonlands National Park is on my bucket list and I'm building this truck to handle the 100 mile trail. I'm hoping to go in spring 2026 so these tires will need to handle it.

I did the White Rim Trail and many others in that general area of Utah last year. I have Firestone Destination XT, 255/75/17 in a C Load rating. I've done all sorts of trails in WA, Oregon desert, Nevada and Utah with this rig. ~3" lift on Eibach Pro Truck shocks and Icon springs. These Firestones in a C load are among the lightest tire and I have faith in them from my offroad travels.

I will say that White Rim Trail is mostly mild in terms of offroad rating. You'll be bumping along at 10-12 mph. There are a couple areas that demand more careful attention to your line. The park ranger cruised out in a stock Ford F150, though I'm sure the tires were AT, and probably better than P rated. I am very glad I broke it out into 3 nights. That made for leisurely 30+ mile days and really enjoying being inside Canyonlands like that. You really should stop a lot, get out and see, stretch legs at the cool lookouts and features. Explore your designated camp area on foot. All that was just as special as the drive. There's no reason to rush it. It takes a few hours to go 30 miles in there.

I'm strongly of the opinion an E rated tire is a bad move for our mid size trucks. Heavy, so harder on components and will reduce your range due to gas consumption. Harder breaking, and less acceleration too. You have to air down more PSIs to gain the same deform and comfort from a C load, and you might not achieve it without losing a bead. They are that stiff. E rated likely have a stronger sidewall, but a careless hard grind into a sharp rock will tear an E rated tire too.

So, poorer performance, less ability to air down to deform for traction and comfort, higher cost.. but a tougher carcass. Hard no for me.

 

[Frenchy]

I did the White Rim Trail and many others in that general area of Utah last year. I have Firestone Destination XT, 255/75/17 in a C Load rating. I've done all sorts of trails in WA, Oregon desert, Nevada and Utah with this rig. ~3" lift on Eibach Pro Truck shocks and Icon springs. These Firestones in a C load are among the lightest tire and I have faith in them from my offroad travels.

I will say that White Rim Trail is mostly mild in terms of offroad rating. You'll be bumping along at 10-12 mph. There are a couple areas that demand more careful attention to your line. The park ranger cruised out in a stock Ford F150, though I'm sure the tires were AT, and probably better than P rated. I am very glad I broke it out into 3 nights. That made for leisurely 30+ mile days and really enjoying being inside Canyonlands like that. You really should stop a lot, get out and see, stretch legs at the cool lookouts and features. Explore your designated camp area on foot. All that was just as special as the drive. There's no reason to rush it. It takes a few hours to go 30 miles in there.

I'm strongly of the opinion an E rated tire is a bad move for our mid size trucks. Heavy, so harder on components and will reduce your range due to gas consumption. Harder breaking, and less acceleration too. You have to air down more PSIs to gain the same deform and comfort from a C load, and you might not achieve it without losing a bead. They are that stiff. E rated likely have a stronger sidewall, but a careless hard grind into a sharp rock will tear an E rated tire too.

So, poorer performance, less ability to air down to deform for traction and comfort, higher cost.. but a tougher carcass. Hard no for me.

Part of why one must be careful and not careless when traveling off pavement. I believe I was one of the main ones to influence the Destination XT and I will agree that they are fantastic! For the 5 sets I have ran so far, only 1 was load C and that's because of the size. With the Load E I can't say that stiffness has been an issue, but I know that the tires still air down well enough for my needs even with my Frontier(probably around the same weight).

Regardless I will say that one of the key things I like about the Destination XT over the rest is the light weight design compared to other tires in the same size and load range.

 

[Msfitoy]

How much are they in 285? In my experience having gone through Falken, Cooper and currently General...I'd say the Cooper ATX XLT are the PERFECT set...

 

[SDXLT]

The Destination X/T in E are 50 lbs. my only issue with them and it’s totally stupid, is they don’t look aggressive and being in SoCal it’s all about how mean those tires look.
I can’t find them at Discount Tire in a C load so maybe they can order them. My KO2 C’s in 265/70/17 at 48ish lbs

 

[Frenchy]

The Destination X/T in E are 50 lbs. my only issue with them and it’s totally stupid, is they don’t look aggressive and being in SoCal it’s all about how mean those tires look.
I can’t find them at Discount Tire in a C load so maybe they can order them. My KO2 C’s in 265/70/17 at 48ish lbs

Remember that Looks aren't everything. Too many individuals seem to forget that and spend a bunch of cheap knockoff tires.

Also the Firestone Destination XT in 265/70-17(Load E BTW) is 45 LBS a piece. In 255/75-17(Load C) it is 40 LBS a piece. Might want to keep that in mind

 

[SDXLT]

I’m sizing up to 285/70/17 with my next set which is why I’m so concerned with weight and trying to avoid a heavy E. The milestars are cheaper than the destinations and about the same weight. No doubt the destinations are a quality tire and they are made in Canada. The milestones are made in the US.

 

[Frenchy]

I’m sizing up to 285/70/17 with my next set which is why I’m so concerned with weight and trying to avoid a heavy E. The milestars are cheaper than the destinations and about the same weight. No doubt the destinations are a quality tire and they are made in Canada. The milestones are made in the US.

You do you, it be aware that I have not had a single issue with the Firestone Destination XT's even in 285/70-17. I had a set on my 2019 Ranger and I loved them. Had a set on a 2019 Chevy Express can. Never had a problem. Had a set on an old 93 Pathfinder. No problems. I'm on my second set with my 2012 Frontier and I haven't had an issue. With the Ranger, MPG won't be an issue.

 

[lazynorse]

I should’ve added.. you should consider 255. Skinny tires outperform wide tires in almost all offroad applications, especially hard rock Utah terrain. Also lighter, better range from better mpg. Taller 255s clear the wheel wells better than wider, too.

Also, I don’t understand the ‘looks’ concern. All AT tires look the same from 10’ away.

 

[RedlandRanger]

You do you, it be aware that I have not had a single issue with the Firestone Destination XT's even in 285/70-17. I had a set on my 2019 Ranger and I loved them. Had a set on a 2019 Chevy Express can. Never had a problem. Had a set on an old 93 Pathfinder. No problems. I'm on my second set with my 2012 Frontier and I haven't had an issue. With the Ranger, MPG won't be an issue.

I'm curious what kind of mileage you got out of those previous sets of Destination XTs. My experience with Firestone tires (which has all been ones that came on a new vehicle) is that they are VERY soft, and don't last very long. That is the reason I've never considered them for replacement tires.

 

[Frenchy]

I'm curious what kind of mileage you got out of those previous sets of Destination XTs. My experience with Firestone tires (which has all been ones that came on a new vehicle) is that they are VERY soft, and don't last very long. That is the reason I've never considered them for replacement tires.

A fair question. The Destination XT is rated for 50,000 miles. On the Ranger I want to say I put close to 10,000-15,000 miles on them before it got totaled. The tires looked almost new. On the Chevy Express I was able to get just over 40,000 miles, but keep in mind that can was HEAVY. The Pathfinder I want to say was around 20,000 with some good wear, but some of that wear was due to some issues with the steering and suspension. With the frontier on set 1 I put close to 15,000 miles on them and thy were still at 11/32(new it's 15/32). I replaced them simply because of fuel usage with the 33' vs stock 32's. The 32's are close to 5000 miles and we shall see how they do.

 

[Msfitoy]

Remember that Looks aren't everything.

Don't care what brand these are, but they're perfect...

 

[Grumpaw]

Don't care what brand these are, but they're perfect...

Sid....how do you check the "pressure" on that ?????
Also, very "smooth" tread.....might not do well on trails......but great on soft surfaces......

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