Installed 589 mount with Superwinch on Tremor

[OneMore]

Greetings all,

This is not a how to post.
Just want to share some information that may be helpful to others.

Winch is a Superwinch SX12VSR12, https://www.superwinch.com/en/produ...0sr-12v-12000-lb-synthetic-rope-winch-1712201

Winch mounting plate is from 589 Fabrication, https://589fab.com/products/hidden-winch-mount

Time will tell if the winch holds up and works well. Or maybe I'll never know as it won't see much use.
But I wanted a winch for this truck. 4WD is great but that means you get further up the trail than 2WD and end up getting stuck in more difficult conditions.

The 589 winch mount is a well made product and attaches to the truck frame without problems.
Winch bolts in securely.

I went with this Superwinch as other members used this same combination and had pictures to verify it will bolt in.

This was a long task to complete. I have a good forty hours total for the complete installation.
But everything came out as I planed and wanted
The installation could be reversed and I would only need to buy the plastic tray above the factory skid plate to get the truck back to stock.

Here are the things I did to make this work.

1. Using the 589 mount requires the winch to flop over so the clutch release handle is on the passenger
side. In addition, the clutch unit needs to be clocked 180 degrees.
Superwinch says "that can't be done". Yes it can. They are saying it can't because the clutch release
handle will be below the mounting point of the winch body. But the 589 mount is designed for this as
there is an opening to allow access to the handle.
Also the winch will be operating as a top pull. Not the more common bottom pull.
This will make no difference in the operation of the winch. As far as the winch is concerned it is still
the same direction on the drum.

2. The 589 instructions leave a lot of steps out. But not hard to understand overall.
I changed the order of placing the winch and mount onto the truck. They want you to attach the
Passenger side upper bracket onto the main mount and lift into place and then the driver side bracket.
In mocking up the winch into the main mount I could see there would not be enough room to install the
bracket bolts for driver's side after the winch is bolted to the mount. The motor side is almost touching
the mount with no room for the upper bolt. In fact I needed to drill new 1/2 inch bolt holes to relocate
where that one bolt. So I drilled one new location for the upper driver's side bolt and bracket.
Then I bolted on the bracket and winch into the main winch mount.
Prior to installing winch in mount I made new longer and larger gauge wiring leads. The winch control
box is removed from winch and relocated in the engine bay. Attach these to winch terminals before
lifting the winch and mount in between the frame rails.
There is ample room to bolt the passenger side upper winch bracket as the clutch is smaller than the
motor.

These are the main problems I encountered.
Be sure to use the correct length bolts mounting the winch onto the 589 mount. If bolts are too long you could crack the winch case.

Here are a few photos but not enough to be a step by step. Just general pictures I took as I worked away.
This added about 105 LBS. to the truck. Front dropped 1/2 inch. In talking with Fox I was told the stock springs will handle the extra weight without any problem.

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[HarryManback]

What about a picture with everything back together?

 

[OneMore]

What about a picture with everything back together?

Hi HM,

I'll taken a couple tomorrow and post them.

 

[Rhino]

Hi HM,

I'll taken a couple tomorrow and post them.

please

nvm i see it now thats interesting i have a warn winch that i plan to put in it

 

[OneMore]

please

nvm i see it now thats interesting i have a warn winch that i plan to put in it

I was told by Warn, can't clock the EVO series winches. Need to spend 2k plus for one that you can clock. So if you do use the 589 Fabrication mount be sure the winch will work.

 

[Rhino]

I was told by Warn, can't clock the EVO series winches. Need to spend 2k plus for one that you can clock. So if you do use the 589 Fabrication mount be sure the winch will work.

cant remember which one it is i bought it a couple years back its a 10k synthetic id have to look it up again

 

[Rhino]

I was told by Warn, can't clock the EVO series winches. Need to spend 2k plus for one that you can clock. So if you do use the 589 Fabrication mount be sure the winch will work.

you sure about that? ive read it can be clocked a bit just not as much as the zeon

 

[daniel3507]

The more install stories I read on these (and schrockworks) the more I think I'll just pay someone for the install

 

[OneMore]

you sure about that? ive read it can be clocked a bit just not as much as the zeon

Just passing along what I was told in a phone conversation with a Warn sales person.
But as I said in my posting of install. Superwinch told me I couldn't clock 180 degrees.
But I did so without any problem.
I went with Superwinch because I had read posts of two other 5gen members, with pictures, saying they used 589 mount and SW.
Simple enough to see if you can clock you clutch. Might take 5 minutes and you'll know for sure.

 

[Rhino]

Just passing along what I was told in a phone conversation with a Warn sales person.
But as I said in my posting of install. Superwinch told me I couldn't clock 180 degrees.
But I did so without any problem.
I went with Superwinch because I had read posts of two other 5gen members, with pictures, saying they used 589 mount and SW.
Simple enough to see if you can clock you clutch. Might take 5 minutes and you'll know for sure.

yup thats for sure ill have to take it out of my tacomas bumper and take a look when i get time my ranger still isnt even here yet i just like looking for things i want haha

i use to have a superwinch on my truck and sadly it burnt up and couldnt get it to work again so i gave it away

 

[Aonarch]

40 hours???

I'd expect 3.

 

[Rhino]

The more install stories I read on these (and schrockworks) the more I think I'll just pay someone for the install

shouldnt be to hard tbh just take your bumper off and clock the winch should be easy

 

[OneMore]

The more install stories I read on these (and schrockworks) the more I think I'll just pay someone for the install

I completely understand.
This install took lots of time for me to do. Yes, I work slow, but don't make many mistakes. Between ordering heavier gauge cable, correct cable ends, making new longer cables, modifying ACC wiring harness, relocating ACC module, mounting winch control box and many other items to complete this project, it is not for the faint of heart.
But I like working on my vehicles. If something goes wrong with any aspect of the winch and installation I'll know how to deal with it as I'm the one that put it all in.
I'm retired and have plenty of time to devote to this sort of thing.

If someone will do an installation for $500-$650. Let them do it.
Be sure to get a written quote.

 

[OneMore]

40 hours???

I'd expect 3.

I don't think one person can do everything required to install with wiring in 3.
Winch comes with 18 inch wire harness. Relocation of control box needs 40 inch cables in heavier gauge. You will be making them yourself. Oh wait, now where do I put the control box? How do I run the wires from winch to box? This isn't a kit. You are using one company's mount and someone else's winch. You get to figure out how to make it work as a unit.
I do agree that 40 hours is long. But I know it's done right.
If I was to do the same installation again. I could shave off 13 hours, maybe.

 

[Elmosaurus]

This is very cool, OP. Way outside my league of wrenching, but cool nonetheless. Looking forward to you completion pics.

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