How many miles before modding? Warranty concerns.

[StarLord]

Lot of info there. Thank you.

Biggest downside of the Ford Performance Calibration Kit that concerns me is the mandated 91 octane all the time and no adjustability...and if damage would occur with lower octane fuel. I don’t plan to tow, I primarily use the bed as a gun vault for shooting competitions and training, so little concern there. It sounds like Livernois might be a good way to go, as I can’t find much Info with tuners that adapt like the factory “tune” when it notices higher/lower octane fuel. That would come in handy when the wife fills up with 87 octane, or when buddy offers to buy a tank of fuel on a road trip. Read something about a Roush tuner possibly adjusting to different fuel somewhere, but it was for a mustang ecoboost and now I can’t find it.

I’m unsure of what the difference between a lift and leveling would be. I don’t want to go high like I did with my F250, as I want it still in my garage, but would like the spacing to match front to back on the wheels to fenders. Primarily aesthetics if being honest, and will only benefit me when at competitions using natural terrain and needing to truck around the property, which is common with what I do.

Exhaust is a last priority, and unless it came as a package, would be the last installed. An aesthetic and auditory thing, as I’ve read Performance doesn’t seem to be helped much by it.

The Roush Tune will compensate for lower octane gas. Obviously with any forced induced engine you'd want to run as high an octane as possible, but it will compensate to the best of its ability. Filling up 1 tank of 94/91 and then filling up with 1 tank of 87/89 will show very little change as the ECU takes multiple tanks to adjust fuel, timing etc.

Other post speaking about the Roush stuff have stated its a dynamic system and works with various octane fuels.

Ive only ever owned turbo charged vehicles in my lifetime and let me tell you, a "tune" is 10/10 times worth every cent!

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[DocE3Gun]

That sounds better than the Ford Performance option then. I tried chatting with someone there via online chat and they were nice, but it was a blunt... "use 91 octane only, damage could happen." I drive 8-13 hours one way for what I do, and the last thing I need to worry about is a buddy filling the tank with 87 while I'm shopping the candy aisle like a kid who found a $10 bill.

 

[T Bone]

i had forscan going in mine in less that 48 hours........................if that counts

 

[Ace Holliday]

Something I will also add as I just remembered. Any part from Ford Performance will go off the original start date of the vehicles warranty. So say you bought it January of 2019 then the warranty would be from when you bought the truck in January of 2019. Not from when you buy the part. One of the disclaimers from Ford Performance. That is the only downside I see from them.

The 3/36000 warranty shown in the FPP Tune description is a warranty for the ProCal 4 device. The original 3/36000 bumper to bumper and the 5/60000 power train warranties remain in affect. This is per FPP. Unless you are mistreating the power train (sanctioned racing, abuse that can be proven, doing stupid and crazy things that grenade your motor, etc.) Ford would be obligated to honor their warranty.

 

[Frenchy]

The 3/36000 warranty shown in the FPP Tune description is a warranty for the ProCal 4 device. The original 3/36000 bumper to bumper and the 5/60000 power train warranties remain in affect. This is per FPP. Unless you are mistreating the power train (sanctioned racing, abuse that can be proven, doing stupid and crazy things that grenade your motor, etc.) Ford would be obligated to honor their warranty.

Actually because of the tune from Ford Performance the powertrain warranty goes down to 3/36,000. The bumper to bumper stays the same of course but power train changes. Also Ford Performance reports tge tune to Ford so it becomes effective. I myself went with Livernois and therefore by all technicalities my powertrain warranty is void..... That is if a failure is cause by the tune.

 

[Ace Holliday]

Actually because of the tune from Ford Performance the powertrain warranty goes down to 3/36,000. The bumper to bumper stays the same of course but power train changes. Also Ford Performance reports tge tune to Ford so it becomes effective. I myself went with Livernois and therefore by all technicalities my powertrain warranty is void..... That is if a failure is cause by the tune.

Since in California the only tune that is CARB Approved is the FPP tune my choices were limited. I called FPP and was told the 5/60000 is unaffected. Unless it is proven the tune caused a failure. The Magnussen-Moss act puts the burden of proof on Ford. They have to prove the failure in question was directly caused by an end user modification. In the absence of that proof the 5/60000 warranty is valid.
Where did you get your information?

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