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[OFC Ranger]

If you only drive city it may help but the issue is most likely your driving style not the transmission....

I only lock out 10th gear on the highway. Again, MPG increase.

Keep trying.

Oh I'm sure it is my driving style, I'm not 85 years old. You know the guy who merges onto a 70 mph interstate at 40 MPH. I bet his MPG is way better than mine, I won't argue.

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[Squatchranger]

I only lock out 10th gear on the highway. Again, MPG increase.

Keep trying.

Oh I'm sure it is my driving style, I'm not 85 years old. You know the guy who merges onto a 70 mph interstate at 40 MPH. I bet his MPG is way better than mine, I won't argue.

If you had done things in a scientific way where you could legitimately attribute the changes to locking out the gear sure I would concede that point but from an engineering and mathematical standpoint based on facts and quantifiable data you are barking up the wrong tree, it is simple lower gear means higher revs which means more fuel consumption if we are both going 70 and you are in 9th gear and i am in 10th all other factors constant I am gonna use less fuel because less rpm means fewer combustion cycles hence lower fuel use If you are constantly accelerating (using the physics definition not the normal ppl one) yes you will use more fuel because acceleration requires energy so constantly braking speeding up weaving in and out will all use more gas because you need more energy to maintain your speed due to your velocity changes that isn't cause of the transmission its cause of your driving style

 

[Trigganometry]

Locking out the last 3 gears has increased my city MPG. I also don't bog down on inclines or hills.

Try again.

Pro Tip: Actually try what I am talking about before speaking from a position of authority. Do you know what the average RPM in 7th gear is in a city area? Hint: not that high.

I’m pretty sure 7th gear in our rigs is the 1:1 ratio too.

 

[t4thfavor]

I’m pretty sure 7th gear in our rigs is the 1:1 ratio too.

I can also add that when the trans goes into failsafe, it stays in 7th gear. You can legit drive in 7th gear from a stop to about 65 mph without revving over like 3K. My output speed sensor failed and I spend a day in 7th gear before I could drop it off at the dealer. I'm sure it wasn't "good" for the trans, but it worked.

EDIT:Might have been 4K, I can't remember the specifics.

 

[OFC Ranger]

If you had done things in a scientific way where you could legitimately attribute the changes to locking out the gear sure I would concede that point but from an engineering and mathematical standpoint based on facts and quantifiable data you are barking up the wrong tree, it is simple lower gear means higher revs which means more fuel consumption if we are both going 70 and you are in 9th gear and i am in 10th all other factors constant I am gonna use less fuel because less rpm means fewer combustion cycles hence lower fuel use If you are constantly accelerating (using the physics definition not the normal ppl one) yes you will use more fuel because acceleration requires energy so constantly braking speeding up weaving in and out will all use more gas because you need more energy to maintain your speed due to your velocity changes that isn't cause of the transmission its cause of your driving style

My wallet is the only science I need. I am not the only one on this forum who has increased MPG by:

1. running a tuner

2. locking out gears

What I will concede is the flip side of the coin is the level of modifications probably does factor into this on some level.

Also keep in mind that manufacturer testing to determine MPG is a joke. The whole process is one of the most unrealistic tripe that manufacturers are legally able to get away with to over inflate their advertising numbers because grandpa can meet those numbers, or some random Joe in the perfect setting (road grade and temperature) can hit those numbers.

Hell articles are starting to become more and more common that even EV manufacturers are over inflating their charge distances based on the same concept of snake oil.

 

[P. A. Schilke]

My wallet is the only science I need. I am not the only one on this forum who has increased MPG by:

1. running a tuner

2. locking out gears

What I will concede is the flip side of the coin is the level of modifications probably does factor into this on some level.

Also keep in mind that manufacturer testing to determine MPG is a joke. The whole process is one of the most unrealistic tripe that manufacturers are legally able to get away with to over inflate their advertising numbers because grandpa can meet those numbers, or some random Joe in the perfect setting (road grade and temperature) can hit those numbers.

Hell articles are starting to become more and more common that even EV manufacturers are over inflating their charge distances based on the same concept of snake oil.

Hi Jack,

The unrealistic numbers are from the Federal government created test procedure. To publish other numbers is a violation of Federal law.

Best,
Phil

 

[Wytchdctr]

Hi Jack,

The unrealistic numbers are from the Federal government created test procedure. To publish other numbers is a violation of Federal law.

Best,
Phil

My stock 4x2 meets those federal numbers; after I got about 5k miles and turned ASS back on. Unless I am being a goofy ass with the way I drive or exceed 75 on the highway. It really starts to drop off quick as speeds go up thanks to it being umm.... super aerodynamic.

 

[Msfitoy]

Any turbo likes colder weather/dislike heat, but I am impressed with the 2.3 in triple digit actual temps. Is this common across Ford's Ecoboost line or thanks to the Ranger being setup for towing and a bit of abuse? I believe we have a bigger IC than a mustang; an example of dealing with abuse/stress.

My Cobalt SS lost way more performance when the temps rose. It did NOT like 100+ at all. It wasn't exactly stock either so that may have been a bit of the problem.

I had a 09 Turbo SS tuned to 20psi...the only thing I noticed was the tire got stickier in higher heat and I wasn't able to break tires loose in second lol... I sold her recently...

 

[Wytchdctr]

I had a 09 Turbo SS tuned to 20psi...the only thing I noticed was the tire got stickier in higher heat and I wasn't able to break tires loose in second lol... I sold her recently...

My 09 running the same boost was literally bent in half by an asshole that thought the ebrake was for emergency stops.

He hit it so hard the stock wing and back glass stayed at the point of impact. Also, with it being in gear and the ebrake set with sticky michelins it moved about a full block from where it was.... ... .. luckily I wasn't in it. Sad day.. it was beyond totalled. The trunk lid was in the rear seat area and the roof was buckled up shattering the sunroof.

 

[WNCblueridge]

Everything is retarded down for the sake of EPA numbers, not just the boost.

Why on earth do I need a transmission in 10th gear when going like 60mph. If they would have offered a standard 6 or 7 gear automatic transmission I would have got that. I lock out gear 8, 9, and 10 every time I get in the truck.

Same here. Almost every time speed limit is 35mph speed limit the 8th, 9th & 10th get dropped. At 45mph speed limit the 9th & 10th gears get dropped. 55mph speed limit the 10th gear is dropped. Only at 65mph and above am U using all 10 gears. Been working well this way for me using FP tune the past 9 months and fuel mileage stays at 25-27mpg avg. Hardly ever use Sport or Tow anymore but nice knowing its there.

 

[WNCblueridge]

Same here. Almost every time speed limit is 35mph speed limit the 8th, 9th & 10th get dropped. At 45mph speed limit the 9th & 10th gears get dropped. 55mph speed limit the 10th gear is dropped. Only at 65mph and above am U using all 10 gears. Been working well this way for me using FP tune the past 9 months and fuel mileage stays at 25-27mpg avg. Hardly ever use Sport or Tow anymore but nice knowing its there.

Didn't realize this thread was morphing into fuel efficiency debate. Above quote was just my observation & preference to locking out gears to prevent putting around town in 10th gear while maintaining slightly higher RPM cruising.

 

[Ninda]

My truck hates the cold. Moving to GA at the end of July so it better get used to the heat. lol

 

[Msfitoy]

My 09 running the same boost was literally bent in half by an asshole that thought the ebrake was for emergency stops.

He hit it so hard the stock wing and back glass stayed at the point of impact. Also, with it being in gear and the ebrake set with sticky michelins it moved about a full block from where it was.... ... .. luckily I wasn't in it. Sad day.. it was beyond totalled. The trunk lid was in the rear seat area and the roof was buckled up shattering the sunroof.

Wow...I'm glad you weren't in it and sad to loose your SS...I bought mine new and the lucky guy who got it from me received a near perfect specimen...hope he keeps it that way...

 

[Aonarch]

My truck hates the cold. Moving to GA at the end of July so it better get used to the heat. lol

Yeah that will be a change! It's hot here!

 

[dtech]

Hi Jack,

The unrealistic numbers are from the Federal government created test procedure. To publish other numbers is a violation of Federal law.

Best,
Phil

Phil you may well know that a Federal judge in 2019 dismissed a $1.2B class action suit against Ford related to mpg estimates for the F-150 and Ranger (link below) making these comments :

"Regardless, Judge Sean F. Cox agreed with Ford’s argument that the lawsuit and its claims must be dismissed because they’re preempted under federal law, and for the fact that “EPA fuel economy estimates are not, and have never been, guarantees of real-world fuel economy performance.” The judge agreed and noted that mileage will vary. “Ratings are a useful tool for comparing the fuel economies of different vehicles but may not accurately predict the average [miles per gallon] you will get,” Cox said."

The EPA has revised those tests multiple times to attempt greater accuracy but the nos are estimates and have always been intended as a guideline - mostly for comparison purposes with other vehicles. People who expect these numbers to reflect their individual results I think have unrealistic expectations and it's a common complaint on these type of sites. Also to add I believe that the tests might be conducted using non ethanol blended fuel - which does make a difference.

There have been some cases - most notably Hyundai/KIA that knowingly falsified the test results and they received a hefty fine, I own one such vehicle and get a gas card reimbursement for the falsification.

https://fordauthority.com/2022/02/ford-fuel-economy-class-action-lawsuit-dismissed/

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