Ford Performance

[MagneticRanger]

For sure, the only meaningful test would be to use the same octane before and after. Otherwise, who can say if it is the tune or the octane? Still, I put the tune in and shifted to higher octane simultaneously. The truck runs great, with more power, better torque, and smoother shifting. I can feel the results and do not care much about the numbers...

Nice!

I'm glad you've been satisfied with your results...the consensus on here has been almost everyone has been happy with it... except the few who returned to stock and removed tune due to fuel costs at that particular time.

For me ....the true #'s that do matter are from my wallet.... If I were to buy out of the US after conversion, taxes shipping it would be around $1100 ish....To get it from a retailer within Canada it's about $1350/$1400 CDN

I'm just trying to think over if that kind of money is money well spent on my behalf for potentially minimum(or unknown) gains.

I'm continuing to seek out and read others input.

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[RANGER_MARC]

Nice!

I'm glad you've been satisfied with your results...the consensus on here has been almost everyone has been happy with it... except the few who returned to stock and removed tune due to fuel costs at that particular time.

For me ....the true #'s that do matter are from my wallet.... If I were to buy out of the US after conversion, taxes shipping it would be around $1100 ish....To get it from a retailer within Canada it's about $1350/$1400 CDN

I'm just trying to think over if that kind of money is money well spent on my behalf for potentially minimum gains.

I'm continuing to seek out and read others input.

Hey, Magnetic, I did not realize that Canada's price was so much higher. There must be some locally produced alternatives. Either that or time for a road trip down South (to the States, that is)!

 

[MagneticRanger]

Hey, Magnetic, I did not realize that Canada's price was so much higher. There must be some locally produced alternatives. Either that or time for a road trip down South (to the States, that is)!

It's bananas....I know I know....you've got to pay to play .....but today locally.....1 performance pack for my Ranger is like 3 heads of lettuce....just kidding.

But seriously though...yeah....Livernois, 5 star they probably could be had for less.....call me a sucker for vendor specific items....it might be my male version of having matching Gucci watch with Gucci shoes???...which by the way I have neither of both.

There is an outfit locally that has hooked me up with a US address so buying one isn't too hard ....but still upwards around $1100 to purchase then I have to make a 3 hour pilgrimage to Toronto to pick it up.

 

[Rp930]

So I'm very curious about this tune....no interest debating it's value...heck I'm interested in it myself! But my question is this.

On Ford Performance parts website the tune states an increase of 45hp and 60ft lbs torque...coupled with reported better shift patterns etc etc. The graph(dyno) they show shows the base power @ (87)octane and the improved tune power levels @ (93)octane.

On the Ford Authority website they had an article regarding the 2021 Ford Bronco where it was written up that it was found that stock with no tune...power levels with the 2.3 where on par with the Ranger at 270/275 HP and 310 ft lbs torque...but when fed 93 octane those levels registered in @ 300hp / 325 ft lbs of torque.

So I have to assume the Ranger would be/act the same way if also fed 93 octane.

I also believe 5 star tuning did an actual dyno write up with a stock ranger using 93 octane and it had pulls up to 330hp / 345/350 ft. lbs of torque as a baseline prior to their tune.

So I guess my question as related to the FPP tune would be...the performance increase of going to the tune asides from the improved shift patterns ...is the power level 45hp/60ft lbs over stock @ 87 octane...or if already using 93 octane and having increased performance as result of that, would the tune jump that power level even more to say 345 HP and 370 ft lbs of torque??

I really can't find any information on the tune's performance increase over already what may just using 93 to begin with.

I ran premium before the Ford tune. It is still a noticeable difference in power. It is not just the octane. I’ve always run premium. The difference in transmission characteristics is worth it alone. The extra power is icing on the top.

Don’t get hung up on comparing dyno numbers from multiple sources and multiple vehicles. It is much more than octane.

Mileage increased around .5 mpg if anyone is worried about that.

 

[RANGER_MARC]

It's bananas....I know I know....you've got to pay to play .....but today locally.....1 performance pack for my Ranger is like 3 heads of lettuce....just kidding.

But seriously though...yeah....Livernois, 5 star they probably could be had for less.....call me a sucker for vendor specific items....it might be my male version of having matching Gucci watch with Gucci shoes???...which by the way I have neither of both.

There is an outfit locally that has hooked me up with a US address so buying one isn't too hard ....but still upwards around $1100 to purchase then I have to make a 3 hour pilgrimage to Toronto to pick it up.

Yeah, I also prefer to have Ford Performance or Ford Accessories equipment if possible, so I understand where you are coming from. (No Guccis in my house, either!) Still, many members swear by the Livernois and Five Star tunes, so you probably can't go wrong with any of these names, whatever is cheaper for you up there.

 

[AzScorpion]

Yeah, I also prefer to have Ford Performance or Ford Accessories equipment if possible, so I understand where you are coming from. (No Guccis in my house, either!) Still, many members swear by the Livernois and Five Star tunes, so you probably can't go wrong with any of these names, whatever is cheaper for you up there.

I think the FPT is a great tune and gives you enough added hp/tq to make a huge difference and still retains your warranty. The reason I went with the Livernois tune was because you got 5 tunes with it and when gas gets high like it has been you can always flash to a 87-89 tune and still gain some hp/tq. Plus it was only $500 at the time and my Polish wallet liked that price much better. lol

 

[Jason B]

So I'm very curious about this tune....no interest debating it's value...heck I'm interested in it myself! But my question is this.

On Ford Performance parts website the tune states an increase of 45hp and 60ft lbs torque...coupled with reported better shift patterns etc etc. The graph(dyno) they show shows the base power @ (87)octane and the improved tune power levels @ (93)octane.

On the Ford Authority website they had an article regarding the 2021 Ford Bronco where it was written up that it was found that stock with no tune...power levels with the 2.3 where on par with the Ranger at 270/275 HP and 310 ft lbs torque...but when fed 93 octane those levels registered in @ 300hp / 325 ft lbs of torque.

So I have to assume the Ranger would be/act the same way if also fed 93 octane.

I also believe 5 star tuning did an actual dyno write up with a stock ranger using 93 octane and it had pulls up to 330hp / 345/350 ft. lbs of torque as a baseline prior to their tune.

So I guess my question as related to the FPP tune would be...the performance increase of going to the tune asides from the improved shift patterns ...is the power level 45hp/60ft lbs over stock @ 87 octane...or if already using 93 octane and having increased performance as result of that, would the tune jump that power level even more to say 345 HP and 370 ft lbs of torque??

I really can't find any information on the tune's performance increase over already what may just using 93 to begin with.

Most of the sites I see about tunes always compared stock with 87, then tuned with 93. Not a fair comparison in my opinion. I think 5Star compared before and after with 93.
It is also mentioned in the owner's manual that you will get better performance with the higher octane.

 

[puda]

For sure, the only meaningful test would be to use the same octane before and after. Otherwise, who can say if it is the tune or the octane? Still, I put the tune in and shifted to higher octane simultaneously. The truck runs great, with more power, better torque, and smoother shifting. I can feel the results and do not care much about the numbers...

I have been running 93 since I bought the truck. I gained 1-2 mpg when I installed the Ford tune.

 

[daczone]

I’ve been trying to decide if the $250 install from dealer is worth it for any warranty issues. Thank you

If you are under warranty you may want to have them do it for peace of mind. It's purely a money grab and it's easy to do. The hardess part was installing the K&N air cleaner (and that wasn't hard).

However this would fall under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 which protects consumers on warranties.

According to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act: a vehicle manufacturer cannot void the warranty of your vehicle due to an aftermarket part unless they can prove that the aftermarket part was the cause of or contributed to the failure of the vehicle (15 U.S.C. 2302 (C)).

So sure if you run 87 octane after installing this tune, and blow up your motor, however the burden of proof would be on them.

My buddy had installed this himself after 2 failed dealer trips, and told me how great it made his truck feel. That was no joke.

 

[maxbottomtime]

I really want to get a tune, but long term reliability is a concern. I don’t need the truck to drive differently, but do expect it to make it to 200,000 miles as I’ll be keeping it a while. If the tune causes the engine to work a bit harder and have an average life of 125, vs say 175k miles, then it’s not worth it. I understand it’s safe enough to warrant through the minimal factory drivetrain warranty, but it’s beyond that point which matters.

I guess I could buy the extended, tuned drivetrain warranty but then this quickly becomes a several thousand dollar proposition.
93 will suffice for now.

 

[Jason B]

IMO, just having the tune won't degrade the life of the truck on its own. Your driving style will affect the life of the truck, with or without the tune. One can't expect it to last to 200K with oil changes only at 10K and driving it like you are in the Daytona 500.

 

[BettaRanga]

Five Star determined about 300 hp at the crank running 93 octane on stock Ranger.

So a gain of about 30 hp from gas alone.

https://tfltruck.com/2019/01/2019-f...power-numbers-on-93-octane-fuel-dyno-results/

 

[D Fresh]

I’ve been trying to decide if the $250 install from dealer is worth it for any warranty issues. Thank you

I'd say yes.

The only reason to buy the Ford tune over another is warranty concerns. Livernois and Unleashed offer stronger tunes for much less money.

FWIW. It doesn't have to be the dealership that does it. Any ASE certified tech will satisfy the warranty.

 

[D Fresh]

People really talking about 5 star as if two of the trucks they tuned, that we know of, didn't have catastrophic engine failures?

I wouldn't use them as an authority on anything Ranger or tuning related. And I certainly wouldn't put any of their shit in my truck.

 

[Stic-o]

Prior to your installation of your tune were you running 91 or above octane ?

87, and I still ran a tank of 87 with the tuner and picked up the milage.

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