Ford invents 40% biomaterial (olive tree) composite

[KNI]

Picked from the news. Ford invents 40% biomaterial composite with 60% recycled plastic and plans to use it in their cars.



Now a question to Ford?

Why invent 40% biomaterial composite when you can buy ready made commercial use 100% biomaterial off the shell with same properties?

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[Grumpaw]

Great !!!!! Mice already eat the soy based wire cover, now they can feast on the rest of the vehicle !!!
Italian salad dressing for coolant.....

At the very least, they could have used a decent wood, like oak or teak.....
Besides, it's been done before, using wood products for vehicles.....

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

Great !!!!! Mice already eat the soy based wire cover, now they can feast on the rest of the vehicle !!!
Italian salad dressing for coolant.....

At the very least, they could have used a decent wood, like oak or teak.....

I’m laughing Steve but that could actually happen and I don’t think even Phil has ever tested for such a scenario.

 

[Grumpaw]

I’m laughing Steve but that could actually happen and I don’t think even Phil has ever tested for such a scenario.

Wonder what's next..... an EV made out of balsa and chip board.......

 

[KNI]

Wonder what's next..... an EV made out of balsa and chip board.......

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[Big Blue]

Wonder what's next..... an EV made out of balsa and chip board.......

Don't forget the tissue paper and dope outer skin! After the battery fire all you need to do is sweep up the ashes.

 

[Dr_Strangelove]

Why invent 40% biomaterial composite when you can buy ready made commercial use 100% biomaterial off the shell with same properties?

A little anecdote for you; when my son was about 1 year old and eating lots of solid snacks bought him a set of 10 100% corn-based bio plastic snack bowls. He's about to turn 5 and we just threw the last one away from breaking apart. After a few years they became so brittle that whenever one dropped it either formed a gigantic crack or broke apart entirely. Believe me - they belonged to a toddler and they did not have easy lives. They didn't do this when I bought them. They lived 95% of their lives indoors. Seems they get brittle and age faster than ordinary plastics which also do this albeit over a much longer time period.

 

[Grumpaw]

A little anecdote for you; when my son was about 1 year old and eating lots of solid snacks bought him a set of 10 100% corn-based bio plastic snack bowls. He's about to turn 5 and we just threw the last one away from breaking apart. After a few years they became so brittle that whenever one dropped it either formed a gigantic crack or broke apart entirely. Believe me - they belonged to a toddler and they did not have easy lives. They didn't do this when I bought them. They lived 95% of their lives indoors. Seems they get brittle and age faster than ordinary plastics which also do this albeit over a much longer time period.

Why did you throw em away ???
Could have re-cycled them back into Frito's or something.....they were corn based, right ?
Maybe a door panel on an up-coming Ram ....

 

[Rinn69]

Great.....no rust, but it will dry rot. Instead of Ziebart, you'll have Terminix treat it for termites

 

[Dr_Strangelove]

@Grumpaw - please don't report me to the EPA ?

 

[Grumpaw]

This reminds me of Klinger in the M.A.S.H. episode where he started to eat a Jeep.....

 

[KNI]

A little anecdote for you; when my son was about 1 year old and eating lots of solid snacks bought him a set of 10 100% corn-based bio plastic snack bowls. He's about to turn 5 and we just threw the last one away from breaking apart. After a few years they became so brittle that whenever one dropped it either formed a gigantic crack or broke apart entirely. Believe me - they belonged to a toddler and they did not have easy lives. They didn't do this when I bought them. They lived 95% of their lives indoors. Seems they get brittle and age faster than ordinary plastics which also do this albeit over a much longer time period.

That's because bacteria secrete enzymes which degrade plastic bonds in order to free the carbon for the bacteria. In other words, they break the fibers, eat the carbon and the plastic crumbles to micro plastics. Another source is ozone which degrades plastics through chemical oxidation.

Outdoor there's also UV which degrade the plastics due to photo-oxidation.

PP & PE are harder for bacteria an usually require some photo-oxidation prior them being able to eat it. But do not worry, in few million years they will evolve to readily eat it.

Btw: The reason coal and oil are not renewable is bacteria. At the time when coal and oil deposits formed, trees had developed cellulose and lignin, but bacteria and fungi hadn't adapted to eat those. Therefore when a tree fell down it didn't rot it just stayed there. Few million yeas and trees later there was such a large pile of trees that got buried in the ground and due to ground heat liquefied to oil or solidified to coal. This can not happen anymore as bacteria and fungi will eat the fallen trees.

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