Ford CEO admits 'the customer has spoken' amid company's worst performance slip since 2008 financial crisis: 'It's a big miss'

[AzScorpion]

Yes, but who rigs the game (makes the rules) so it is really a grey area on being legally made money.

As I said to Rob of course it's rigged and we all know it's every politician that's doing it. There's only one way to fix it which is to clean house and get rid of every single one of them and impose term limits. It's never going to happen and people unfortunately keep voting the same way expecting different results.

So like I said you really can't blame them because these are the "legal" rules and nothing they're doing (in plain sight ) is illegal. Everyone here takes all their legal tax deductions and I'm sure they're not going to say "no thanks, I have enough money let someone else have it". We're just on a much smaller scale than the 1%. Plus I'm sure if we really knew what went on there'd be even more turmoil than there already is.

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[Mighty Little Blue]

As I said to Rob of course it's rigged and we all know it's every politician that's doing it. There's only one way to fix it which is to clean house and get rid of every single one of them and impose term limits. It's never going to happen and people unfortunately keep voting the same way expecting different results.

So true what you state I have said the same thing for years plus I would add we need to get rid of all lobbyists. Also after their term limit they need to go to the private sector and not a made up government job. We need to clean house and start over.
You can blame me and say I have no right to complain, because I do not waste my time to vote. I still feel I have the right to my option, because I volunteered for military service.

 

[AzScorpion]

So true what you state I have said the same thing for years plus I would add we need to get rid of all lobbyists. Also after their term limit they need to go to the private sector and not a made up government job. We need to clean house and start over.
You can blame me and say I have no right to complain, because I do not waste my time to vote. I still feel I have the right to my option, because I volunteered for military service.

You have every right to complain especially since you served and thank you for that! Agree, back to the private sector, no lifetime healthcare or pensions and you'd see things do a compete 180.

 

[Fordup]

That's just like that show Home Extreme Makeover. Just about all those who got their house rebuilt had lost it later on because of poor choices again. I mean they couldn't afford to keep up their original home yet they build them this new one 2-3 times as large and now the taxes and utilities have tripled too. Some also had extra money out into an account for this yet they (of course) spent it.

I did the one in Suffield CT back in 2009 and saw first hand what goes on there. I always knew there was something not right about it because you can not build even a slightly decent house in a week and I was right. Most of it was build off site and brought in like a modular house then they had hundreds of sub contractors all over the place. It was a zoo and the most unsafe job site I've ever been on and I have no idea how OSHA let this happen but I'm sure it was. The drywall was slapped up, taped and mudded in a few hours with huge drying fans placed all over the house. Can you say cracked seams! Most wasn't even dry and the whole house was painted over wet mud and the trim carpenters were set up everywhere putting up trim while the walls were wet. I'm not exaggerating when I say there was hundreds of extension cords, spray hoses and equipment everywhere I can't believe someone wasn't seriously hurt especially going up & down the open staircases.

Fast forward a couple months later one of the electricians I know told me they had to go back to fix some things and the house was already trashed inside. I wont go into details but lets just say there's a reason their first house was a dump and now they trashed this new one in a matter of months! I'll stand by my original statement that most (not all) people chose their destiny and complain about having it so bad while everyone else having it so much better.

Did you ever see a Kingdom hall be built in a day. I used to work with a bunch of Jehova Witnesses and heard many stories about how they build a church in a day. Tradesmen from all over the country work in perfect unison and it would 95% complete in a day with minor finishing and decorating left. The concrete work was finished before everyone arrived. The quality of the buildings are top notch and they have their own licensed code inspectors that work with the local inspectors. Just amazing what 500 people can accomplish in a day. The women keep a constant flow of nutrition available all day for short breaks. They saw and dry all the framing lumber, siding, and trim in advance at their big farm that also had a cannery and massive print shop. Everything is onsite and in inventory before starting so zero downtime. I was impressed when I stopped by the end of a build for a tour with a coworker. Their religion wasn't for me, they all knew that and were friendly.

 

[Cmar]

The big 3 loved to position it as "people won't buy small cars" but people seemed to buy plenty of small cars from honda and toyota so it seemed like it was really "people won't buy our small cars". Probably because they sucked compared to the competition.

The best small cars from the big three at that time came from their Euro and British branches. The British small Fords, and German Opel stuff were brilliant little cars in the 1970's, having owned one myself for about 5 years, a Ford Capri, which was super simple and reliable, and easy and cheap to fix when it did break. I wish I had hung onto it they are collectors items now.
And in reality a front MacPherson strut and ball joint, a set of alternator bearings, a timing chain, and a rear wheel bearing were not a lot to ask from a car with over 100,000 miles on it. All of it I did myself with simple hand tools, everything was easily accessible, nothing was that hard to fix.

 

[VAMike]

The best small cars from the big three at that time came from their Euro and British branches.

Yup. How's that Euro investment going for the big 3 these days...short sighted idiots.

 

[RedlandRanger]

The best small cars from the big three at that time came from their Euro and British branches. The British small Fords, and German Opel stuff were brilliant little cars in the 1970's, having owned one myself for about 5 years, a Ford Capri, which was super simple and reliable, and easy and cheap to fix when it did break. I wish I had hung onto it they are collectors items now.
And in reality a front MacPherson strut and ball joint, a set of alternator bearings, a timing chain, and a rear wheel bearing were not a lot to ask from a car with over 100,000 miles on it. All of it I did myself with simple hand tools, everything was easily accessible, nothing was that hard to fix.

I still have my 1973 Capri..... And yes, it is super simple and easy to work on.

 

[Cmar]

I still have my 1973 Capri..... And yes, it is super simple and easy to work on.

Mine was an original imported English built 1969, Ford zircon Green. Later ones were assembled in Australia.

 

[RedlandRanger]

Mine was an original imported English built 1969, Ford zircon Green. Later ones were assembled in Australia.

While 78 was the last year for the "real" Capri in North America, they continued to be built in England until the late 80s I believe. They were known as the "European Mustang".

Mine was built in Germany as were most of the ones imported to NA.

 

[Cmar]

While 78 was the last year for the "real" Capri in North America, they continued to be built in England until the late 80s I believe. They were known as the "European Mustang".

Mine was built in Germany as were most of the ones imported to NA.

And interestingly the UK built ones used the Essex V6 whereas German built ones used the Cologne V6 which later found it's way into Explorers in 4.0 litre form.

 

[IdahoRanger]

I still have my 1973 Capri..... And yes, it is super simple and easy to work on.

My first car was a yellow '73 Capri. I would love to see a picture of yours.

 

[RedlandRanger]

My first car was a yellow '73 Capri. I would love to see a picture of yours.

I also have a yellow '74 sitting in my shop - it is one of my retirement projects but I haven't gotten to start on it yet.

This picture was taken quite a few years ago soon after I finished the restoration. I've owned this car for 42 years - it was my first car.

 

[Cmar]

I also have a yellow '74 sitting in my shop - it is one of my retirement projects but I haven't gotten to start on it yet.

This picture was taken quite a few years ago soon after I finished the restoration. I've owned this car for 42 years - it was my first car.

The ones we got here had one single rectangular headlight with the indicator beside it and didn't have the bumper over riders. And of course the steering wheel was on the other side. Otherwise looks the same.

 

[TxOTRRanger]

I also have a yellow '74 sitting in my shop - it is one of my retirement projects but I haven't gotten to start on it yet.

This picture was taken quite a few years ago soon after I finished the restoration. I've owned this car for 42 years - it was my first car.

That's a nice looking car. It's cool that you still have your first car.

 

[RedlandRanger]

That's a nice looking car. It's cool that you still have your first car.

Thanks! I wish I could say I planned it that way, but it was just dumb luck. The car had like 175k on it and the clutch went out. I ended up buying a new car and they were only going to give me like $300 for it on a trade - no way was I doing that so I just kept it. It sat for a couple of years, I fixed the clutch and gave my new car to my wife and then I drove it another few years before parking it again. It sat for 10-15 years before my son urged me to do a father/son project to restore it. It took 3 or 4 years but it came out pretty good. It is a blast to drive.

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