EGR delete/block off plate

[Dereku]

As a disclaimer I enjoy clean air and dont want to kill the planet. We have China for that anyway.

The EGR system is a problem and has been for ford since 2003. It is a problem with the cooler portion of it, to reduce NOx. Once these fail they can cause serious engine issues or complete failure.

As far as I know mine is fine, but coming up on 90k I begin to be concerned about it.

Is there an upgrade option such as how the powerstrokes had to maintain the system? Can it be deleted? Maybe just a block off plate but keep the whole thong?

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[ctechbob]

There will have to be tuning to go along with it and aftermarket tuners have gotten hammered to death by the EPA. Finding one willing to tune out an EGR probably isn't going to happen with million $$ plus fines being handed out.

 

[Dereku]

I figured on that one. But could it be blocked off without codes or are there flow sensors? If there is a leak and the item is on back order last I heard we could not drive our vehicles without risk of damage.

Some Ford vehicles could be blocked off without codes before. Or could we remove the coolant from the system to avoid it leaking into the intake?

Really just thinking of preventing issues here, not wanting to delete it.

 

[Georgeacosta_]

As a disclaimer I enjoy clean air and dont want to kill the planet. We have China for that anyway.

The EGR system is a problem and has been for ford since 2003. It is a problem with the cooler portion of it, to reduce NOx. Once these fail they can cause serious engine issues or complete failure.

As far as I know mine is fine, but coming up on 90k I begin to be concerned about it.

Is there an upgrade option such as how the powerstrokes had to maintain the system? Can it be deleted? Maybe just a block off plate but keep the whole thong?

My first egr failure took out my motor at 35k. I am also very interested in deleting.

 

[Jason B]

4 years on this forum, I think I heard of one EGR failure, so maybe not as big of a problem as suspected.

 

[Loweredon33s]

It would set codes and potentially have drivability issues without some very specific tuning. It would be somewhat involved to delete as well, it’s more than just a block off plate. I’m very interested in fully deleting mine but really don’t need to in my particular situation.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

Brand new OEM egr cooler is around $90. If you’re worried about it just throw a new one on it as a preventative measure.

 

[Dereku]

Well I guess I should have done some research. Might tear into in over the next few weekends and see. I am pretty sure ford learned a lesson after the 6.0 and 6.4 disaster and made them better/easier to service.

I am always looking for longevity out of my vehicles. I know diesels didn’t care so much about these things before 08 and they could be removed without issue. There have been a few threads on coolant disappearing and the egr cooler was the culprit but it was caught in time.

Not trying to start another fear mongering fuel in oil type debate either. Just a good round table as some of our trucks near the 100k mark. As I intend to keep mine to 250k no matter what, and not take it to a mechanic.

 

[Loweredon33s]

Well I guess I should have done some research. Might tear into in over the next few weekends and see. I am pretty sure ford learned a lesson after the 6.0 and 6.4 disaster and made them better/easier to service.

I am always looking for longevity out of my vehicles. I know diesels didn’t care so much about these things before 08 and they could be removed without issue. There have been a few threads on coolant disappearing and the egr cooler was the culprit but it was caught in time.

Not trying to start another fear mongering fuel in oil type debate either. Just a good round table as some of our trucks near the 100k mark. As I intend to keep mine to 250k no matter what, and not take it to a mechanic.

These engines do not “need” egr. It runs a lot better with it disabled.

 

[Dereku]

These engines do not “need” egr. It runs a lot better with it disabled.

Please elaborate. As the member with one of the most modified engines I assume you have some good insight.

 

[Rocketeer61]

Well I guess I should have done some research. Might tear into in over the next few weekends and see. I am pretty sure ford learned a lesson after the 6.0 and 6.4 disaster and made them better/easier to service.

I am always looking for longevity out of my vehicles. I know diesels didn’t care so much about these things before 08 and they could be removed without issue. There have been a few threads on coolant disappearing and the egr cooler was the culprit but it was caught in time.

Not trying to start another fear mongering fuel in oil type debate either. Just a good round table as some of our trucks near the 100k mark. As I intend to keep mine to 250k no matter what, and not take it to a mechanic.

"I am pretty sure ford learned a lesson after the 6.0 and 6.4 disaster and made them better/easier to service."

Ford hasn't actually learned anything aside from the inconvenient truth that with the invention of the interweb decades ago their quality failures are no longer self limiting. In a few more decades they'll do something about them.

Quality Must Be Built Into A Product. It Cannot Be Inspected Into It.
---North American Aviation, 1955

 

[Loweredon33s]

Please elaborate. As the member with one of the most modified engines I assume you have some good insight.

Plain and simple, they run better without it. Vct engines make their own natural egr effect by using cam position. No other 2.3 ecoboost engines have egr except the truck engines.

 

[Egg69]

Plain and simple, they run better without it. Vct engines make their own natural egr effect by using cam position. No other 2.3 ecoboost engines have egr except the truck engines.

Why is it only the Ranger 2.3s that have it? Is it any easy process to remove?

 

[Dereku]

This truck makes me want a 90s truck more and more. All the regulations and crap the manufacturers add is insane.

 

[TJC]

4 years on this forum, I think I heard of one EGR failure, so maybe not as big of a problem as suspected.

I guess it depends on perspective...

It is only a big problem when it happens to you. Losing an engine at 35K for any reason other than neglect is a big problem. Maybe not for Ford, but it ALWAYS is for the individual affected.

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