Coming up on 40k. A few preventative maintenance things the dealer is recommending

[DROZ23]

I'm sure more often than not cars go to their death with original fluid......not this guy's cars though.

Baha. True True. The old Ranger barley got touched outside of clutches and oil changes. I didn't wash the engine bay for like 15 years bc I figure it was safer that exposing the Seals to fresh air. The oilier the better. HEHE.

One day I was cleaning the air filter and the whole intake hose broke off in my hand and started disintegrating . OOPs. $87 and one PRIME delivery later, It was back on the road. Fk'n Ford RANGER!!!

Have to This. It finally broke "The day after" I got the New Ranger, and left my ass on the highway for 4 hours. The shop tried to charge me $900 for a new alternator. Guess how that went. MUA MUAAAA. Donated the poor old girl to Vehicles for Vets and got a $1050 Tax Break. I miss her.

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[YaBoiNewton]

Depends on how much you murdered your Trans and Fuel system. Assuming you have no oil burn, used a least 91oct, didn't tow or race to motor that much, you should not have to get the Trans done yet. I would THB, but money for money not likely needed. The induction clean is driving style and habits . If your feel power loss or had bad maintenance schedules, the induction clean could be a good choice at 40k. Especially if you drive in short hops at low speeds or spend allow of time in traffic. Or, if you run 87 all the time putting around. These motors are not for 87 Octane. Sorry, Ford made them work but these babies are built for Performance and get dirt AF on Gut Rot 87. They need to get on the road and smash once and awhile. What else is S mode for? "S"uper Clean Mode

Have you seen evidence that 87 octane makes engines dirtier than 91?

 

[DROZ23]

Have you seen evidence that 87 octane makes engines dirtier than 91?

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Dirty is a convenient word I used as satire for my Rot Gut statement. 87 to 91 is not a dirt scale per se. 2.3l EB is a Direct injection motor designed for Higher compression. Ford tunes them so buyers can use 87. Lower octane is prone to Knock (Pre-ignite) which can be damaging and dirty combustion. If this happens unneeded stress is placed on the engine along with incomplete combustion that will create dirtier oil deposits. The more that happens the shorter your Vehicle life span will be. Usually starting with fouled plugs and Intake valve. Rings and bearing being worn faster. Valves needing Walnut blasting (Cleaning) earlier in their life cycle. There are videos of people pulling EB motor heads and plugs on regular octane vs high octane. High octane looks pristine inside vs not.

Send us an update on how many miles you get before the motors starts to feel weak, the Plugs get burnt and varnished. also, when dealer recommends the $700 Nut Blastomaticia for the Intake.

Higher the octane, Better the combustion at higher compression. More stable at higher temps to prevent knock, and fouling. hence, why you must have Premium for most every performance tune. The Variable Cam Timing will even take advantage of premium Gas fuel without a tune. Providing better mpgs and power. Original design of this motor was the Focus RS on premium fuel only. Now Ford has gone to a dual Injection version to address the fouling issues with the Ecoboost lineup. You'll likely need accelerated service windows and are more prone to wear early.

I like the bark and bite throttle response of a tuned 2.3l DI on a E30 mix. Colder faster, safer, cleaner engine. Cheers

For me it is Ultra Plat synthetic oil every 3k not 5k. New oil filter every change or 2. 93 and E30 fuel.

 

[YaBoiNewton]

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Dirty is a convenient word I used as satire for my Rot Gut statement. 87 to 91 is not a dirt scale per se. 2.3l EB is a Direct injection motor designed for Higher compression. Ford tunes them so buyers can use 87. Lower octane is prone to Knock (Pre-ignite) which can be damaging and dirty combustion. If this happens unneeded stress is placed on the engine along with incomplete combustion that will create dirtier oil deposits. The more that happens the shorter your Vehicle life span will be. Usually starting with fouled plugs and Intake valve. Rings and bearing being worn faster. Valves needing Walnut blasting (Cleaning) earlier in their life cycle. There are videos of people pulling EB motor heads and plugs on regular octane vs high octane. High octane looks pristine inside vs not.

Send us an update on how many miles you get before the motors starts to feel weak, the Plugs get burnt and varnished. also, when dealer recommends the $700 Nut Blastomaticia for the Intake.

Higher the octane, Better the combustion at higher compression. More stable at higher temps to prevent knock, and fouling. hence, why you must have Premium for most every performance tune. The Variable Cam Timing will even take advantage of premium Gas fuel without a tune. Providing better mpgs and power. Original design of this motor was the Focus RS on premium fuel only. Now Ford has gone to a dual Injection version to address the fouling issues with the Ecoboost lineup. You'll likely need accelerated service windows and are more prone to wear early.

I like the bark and bite throttle response of a tuned 2.3l DI on a E30 mix. Colder faster, safer, cleaner engine. Cheers

For me it is Ultra Plat synthetic oil every 3k not 5k. New oil filter every change or 2. 93 and E30 fuel.

Idk man I'm not convinced. Even the engine teardown is just opening up random engines and attributing their state to whatever variable you decided was important. Not valid evidence unless the experiment was controlled and all variables held constant between the two motors. We have no idea what the service life was like for any of those motors.

No debating that 93 makes more power, but I'm not buying that it runs cleaner than gas with a slightly lower octane rating.

 

[mtsoxfan]

Oil change at 3k is severe overkill, just judging by smell and color of my own oil at that mileage. I get no fuel smell in my oil, even at the 10k timing of oil change. Not sure when the oil color changes, as I rarely check. It doesn't burn, doesn't leak, so I don't obsess over it.

 

[DROZ23]

Idk man I'm not convinced. Even the engine teardown is just opening up random engines and attributing their state to whatever variable you decided was important. Not valid evidence unless the experiment was controlled and all variables held constant between the two motors. We have no idea what the service life was like for any of those motors.

No debating that 93 makes more power, but I'm not buying that it runs cleaner than gas with a slightly lower octane rating.

Do what you like man, and spend the money how you want. I prefer spending money going fast and clean vs paying to fix largely addressable problems. At the end of the day, we are all dumping thousands of dollars in maintenance. I rather give it to the truck now than the dealer later. Cheers

 

[DROZ23]

Common Stealership tactics... The manufacturer of the car... as in the people that designed and built it and provide the warranty.... Have recommended service intervals published right in the manual. Mr Stealership doesn't read the manual, didn't design or build the car and gets paid by the manufacturer for any warranty work BUT is the 1st one to tell you that you need.... your rear diff oil changed at 20,000 miles when the book says 4 or 5 times than that.

You are not wrong. I would modify the schedule based ones own driving style and habits. Never go over the schedule usually. Accelerate is where needed based on your foot, load, environment.

 

[YaBoiNewton]

Do what you like man, and spend the money how you want. I prefer spending money going fast and clean vs paying to fix largely addressable problems. At the end of the day, we are all dumping thousands of dollars in maintenance. I rather give it to the truck now than the dealer later. Cheers

Sure, do whatever you want man. I run 93 because I like the way it performs and I tow & haul off road frequently. It's not a maintenance concern for me.

I'm just a nerd that only likes doing PM when there is solid evidence to justify the effort/cost. Especially when it comes to forums like this where people are looking to learn.

 

[9zero1790]

some things we do as "maintenance" may not be really needed. However, they sure are not hurting things. A little money wasted doing things early is sort of like cheap insurance for the future in some cases like tires.

 

[DROZ23]

some things we do as "maintenance" may not be really needed. However, they sure are not hurting things. A little money wasted doing things early is sort of like cheap insurance for the future in some cases like tires.

A lot of this a best guess stuff. We really only know DI motors have value issues per the design. How bad it will get is just a matter of usage. We also know these motors run better with quality octane fuel. Pick your hill and die on it. FOR AGATHA!!!

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