Auto STOP crap going away

[veedubtuner]

IDK when but I can tell you one thing. Do Not Google Ass Less when anyone's around!

Well of course now I HAVE to Google it....


Not on my work PC though lol.

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[IdahoRanger]

I hope woodworker is ok. He was very active here over the winter.

Last post from Joel was back in February. Is it time to have @DukeCanBuildit search him out?

 

[Dr. Zaius]

Resurrection.

I wonder when we'll start to see new cars sold that are A.S.S. less? 2027 probably wishful thinking I bet. Maybe 2028?

By 2027, you'll be getting something MUCH worse than ASS.

Just wait until the Driver Monitoring System decides that you're not quite ready to drive.

By 2027, U.S. federal law requires new vehicles to feature advanced impaired-driving prevention technology. Mandated by the 2021 Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (HALT Act), these systems will use cameras, sensors, and AI to monitor driver behavior (eyes, head movements) and detect alcohol levels, with the ability to prevent the car from starting if impairment is detected



Already implemented in some vehicles outside the US.

Prevents drunk driving, right? So not a bad thing, right?

The road to hell is paved with good intentions...

 

[TJC]

Resurrection.

I wonder when we'll start to see new cars sold that are A.S.S. less? 2027 probably wishful thinking I bet. Maybe 2028?

About the time they do away with ASS, they'll have "remote stop", auto remote start" and "refuse to start" embedded in the new model years. And unlike ASS, those "feetures" will be almost impossible to bypass. They''ll have a good reason to rationalize implementation, but they'll never tell you the real reason.

 

[TJC]

By 2027, you'll be getting something MUCH worse than ASS.

Just wait until the Driver Monitoring System decides that you're not quite ready to drive.

By 2027, U.S. federal law requires new vehicles to feature advanced impaired-driving prevention technology. Mandated by the 2021 Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (HALT Act), these systems will use cameras, sensors, and AI to monitor driver behavior (eyes, head movements) and detect alcohol levels, with the ability to prevent the car from starting if impairment is detected



Already implemented in some vehicles outside the US.

Prevents drunk driving, right? So not a bad thing, right?

The road to hell is paved with good intentions...

You beat me to it! And you are CORRECT! Except I do believe there aren't any good intentions involved in this decision.

Imagine a person in panic (perhaps evading a criminal predator) jumping in the car and it not starting due to behavioral issues.... panic, eyes darting around, crying, terror.

She's drunk! No start... And even if she was somewhat intoxicated when this situation occurs.

I see nothing good coming from this. The government having the ability to turn off your car at the push of a key stroke.

 

[AzScorpion]

The 9 most terrifying words!

 

[veedubtuner]

This maybe the first confirmed new vehicle with no A.S.S.

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/new-veh...s/rams-super-truck-ditches-one-190500817.html

 

[veedubtuner]

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1D6ueof8ow/

 

[Jason B]

By 2027, you'll be getting something MUCH worse than ASS.

Just wait until the Driver Monitoring System decides that you're not quite ready to drive.

By 2027, U.S. federal law requires new vehicles to feature advanced impaired-driving prevention technology. Mandated by the 2021 Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (HALT Act), these systems will use cameras, sensors, and AI to monitor driver behavior (eyes, head movements) and detect alcohol levels, with the ability to prevent the car from starting if impairment is detected



Already implemented in some vehicles outside the US.

Prevents drunk driving, right? So not a bad thing, right?

The road to hell is paved with good intentions...

I doubt that it happens by 2027:
The final RULING must be made by Nov 27, not necessarily implemented by then

What the Car Kill Switch Bill Actually Requires - LegalClarity
Hint: It's not kill switches.


"Where the Rulemaking Stands in 2026
The short answer: significantly behind schedule. The law gave NHTSA until November 15, 2024, to issue a final rule establishing the new safety standard.5 NHTSA missed that deadline. The agency has not issued a proposed rule, let alone a final one.

The statute does include a safety valve: NHTSA can extend the deadline by up to three additional years if the Secretary of Transportation determines the standard cannot yet meet the requirements of 49 U.S.C. 30111(a) and (b), which govern the performance and objectivity of federal motor vehicle safety standards.5 That extension pushes the outer deadline for a final rule to November 2027. Even then, automakers would need additional time after the rule takes effect to integrate the technology into production vehicles. Realistically, the earliest any driver would encounter this system in a new car is likely 2029 or later."

" On the repeal side, the No Kill Switches in Cars Act (H.R. 1137), introduced in February 2025, would eliminate the Section 24220 requirement entirely.12 Supporters argue the technology raises unacceptable privacy risks and could strand sober drivers through false positives.
The political dynamic matters because even if NHTSA eventually finalizes its rule, Congress could repeal the underlying mandate before the compliance date arrives "

 

[Dr. Zaius]

I doubt that it happens by 2027:
The final RULING must be made by Nov 27, not necessarily implemented by then

What the Car Kill Switch Bill Actually Requires - LegalClarity
Hint: It's not kill switches.


"Where the Rulemaking Stands in 2026
The short answer: significantly behind schedule. The law gave NHTSA until November 15, 2024, to issue a final rule establishing the new safety standard.5 NHTSA missed that deadline. The agency has not issued a proposed rule, let alone a final one.

The statute does include a safety valve: NHTSA can extend the deadline by up to three additional years if the Secretary of Transportation determines the standard cannot yet meet the requirements of 49 U.S.C. 30111(a) and (b), which govern the performance and objectivity of federal motor vehicle safety standards.5 That extension pushes the outer deadline for a final rule to November 2027. Even then, automakers would need additional time after the rule takes effect to integrate the technology into production vehicles. Realistically, the earliest any driver would encounter this system in a new car is likely 2029 or later."

" On the repeal side, the No Kill Switches in Cars Act (H.R. 1137), introduced in February 2025, would eliminate the Section 24220 requirement entirely.12 Supporters argue the technology raises unacceptable privacy risks and could strand sober drivers through false positives.
The political dynamic matters because even if NHTSA eventually finalizes its rule, Congress could repeal the underlying mandate before the compliance date arrives "

Here's hoping it gets smacked down.

OBD3 would have used your vehicles connectivity features to alert the authorities of a CEL for emissions.

It also had the potential for vastly more government overreach,

Thankfully, it never got implemented due to all the pushback it received.

In today's public climate, the loudest and most strident will clamor for such features to be implemented.

The Concept of OBD-III
Proposed as a future, more advanced diagnostic system, OBD-III was designed to build upon OBD-II by incorporating telematics and wireless transmission. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

• The Goal: It would allow cars to continuously monitor emissions-related issues.
• How it would work: If the car detected a fault (like a failing catalytic converter), the system would transmit an alert via a radio transponder or cellular signal directly to an environmental agency or roadside patrol station.
• Why it was stalled: The proposed technology raised massive public and industry concerns regarding privacy, government overreach, and the cost of implementing widespread roadside receivers.

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