2020 Ranger: Will it get the 2.7 V-6 Eco Boost?

[TacoHawkRanger]

Stop feeding the troll....................................

This. Honestly, for a short moment, I thought he was just an abraisve person who was just unable to articulate a response. I tried to engage him in direct talk with numbers and figures. That was a waste of my time.

ALL - Chuck has proven that he is just here to fight and ham-fistedly brag about his "better turbo I4." I recommend ignoring him, and just talking amongst ourselves until he goes back to Tacomaworld where courtesy is always a back seat to arguments.

Back on topic: The T6 platform is on the larger size for worldwide trucks. I'm in Djibouti, and the Ranger is bigger, if only slightly, than both the Hilux and the Isuzu D-max. Being larger, it still was designed originally for a different market of smaller engines, hence why the current Ranger can't fit the 2.7. Even if they could fit a 2.7 right now, there is a good possibility they wouldn't meet the stringent emissions requirement for a mid-size. The plain truth is that full size trucks have more leeway when it comes to gas mileage vs emissions. The delay in putting the 2.7 in a smaller truck could stem from the modifications needed to meet CARB and the like... as well as re-plumbing to "make it fit."

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[chuck stein]

What?
No Ferrari?

Nope, why would I want that? Giulia Quadrifoglio is on my list after the truck.

 

[chuck stein]

This. Honestly, for a short moment, I thought he was just an abraisve person who was just unable to articulate a response. I tried to engage him in direct talk with numbers and figures. That was a waste of my time.

ALL - Chuck has proven that he is just here to fight and ham-fistedly brag about his "better turbo I4." I recommend ignoring him, and just talking amongst ourselves until he goes back to Tacomaworld where courtesy is always a back seat to arguments.

Back on topic: The T6 platform is on the larger size for worldwide trucks. I'm in Djibouti, and the Ranger is bigger, if only slightly, than both the Hilux and the Isuzu D-max. Being larger, it still was designed originally for a different market of smaller engines, hence why the current Ranger can't fit the 2.7. Even if they could fit a 2.7 right now, there is a good possibility they wouldn't meet the stringent emissions requirement for a mid-size. The plain truth is that full size trucks have more leeway when it comes to gas mileage vs emissions. The delay in putting the 2.7 in a smaller truck could stem from the modifications needed to meet CARB and the like... as well as re-plumbing to "make it fit."

What's wrong with nit-picking at a truck I am about to buy? I had also stated in other threads that I am waiting for the 2020 model to be available to order, and I skipped the 2019 model due to all the nuisance problems it has.


The T6 platform was designed to fit these engines. There's no re-doing of plumbing or fitting or anything, they just fit. Can the 400lb-ft I5 Duratorq be US emissions compliant? Yes it can, so why is that not an option? I perhaps would not mind 400lb-ft with a 6spd manual.

Engines
The T6 platform supports various four- and five-cylinder Ford Motor Company engines, including:

• 2.3L Turbo EcoBoost DOHC I4 gasoline engine mated to Ford 10-speed automatic transmission
• 2.5L Duratec 25 DOHC I4 (Mazda L5-VE) gasoline engine mated to 5-speed manual transmission
• 2.2L Duratorq TDCi (ZSD-422) DOHC I4 turbo-diesel mated to 6-speed manual or 6-speed automatic transmissions
• 3.2L Duratorq TDCi (P5AT) DOHC I5 (ZSD-422) turbo-diesel mated to 6-speed manual or 6-speed automatic transmissions
• 2.0L EcoBlue (EcoBlue 2.0) DOHC I4 turbo-diesel mated to Ford 10-speed automatic transmission

 

[Doc]

What's wrong with nit-picking at a truck I am about to buy? I had also stated in other threads that I am waiting for the 2020 model to be available to order, and I skipped the 2019 model due to all the nuisance problems it has.


The T6 platform was designed to fit these engines. There's no re-doing of plumbing or fitting or anything, they just fit. Can the 400lb-ft I5 Duratorq be US emissions compliant? Yes it can, so why is that not an option? I perhaps would not mind 400lb-ft with a 6spd manual.

Engines
The T6 platform supports various four- and five-cylinder Ford Motor Company engines, including:

• 2.3L Turbo EcoBoost DOHC I4 gasoline engine mated to Ford 10-speed automatic transmission
• 2.5L Duratec 25 DOHC I4 (Mazda L5-VE) gasoline engine mated to 5-speed manual transmission
• 2.2L Duratorq TDCi (ZSD-422) DOHC I4 turbo-diesel mated to 6-speed manual or 6-speed automatic transmissions
• 3.2L Duratorq TDCi (P5AT) DOHC I5 (ZSD-422) turbo-diesel mated to 6-speed manual or 6-speed automatic transmissions
• 2.0L EcoBlue (EcoBlue 2.0) DOHC I4 turbo-diesel mated to Ford 10-speed automatic transmission

Dead Horse...

 

[chuck stein]

Look, even if Ranger Raptor comes to US it will most likely just be a Duratorq engine. Would you buy that with the 2.0 DT setup? That's silly when the current US Ranger 2.3eb gas beats it easily.

If Ranger Raptor comes to US (likely not though), perhaps they put the DT I5 in it? I'd buy the 400lb-ft i5 DT w/ 6spd manual trans in a heartbeat! But ohhhh, that's not coming either.

 

[SubVet]

Dead Horse...

Ignore function is alive and well. I have now three I don't need to be triggered by.

 

[DannyL]

OMG! What have I done!
Just asked a simple question and all this happened.

 

[jsphlynch]

OMG! What have I done!
Just asked a simple question and all this happened.

Welcome to the internet...

 

[chuck stein]

IMO There is absolutely no reason Ford would put the F150 engine in the Ranger. That would be silly to cannibalize the best selling vehicle in the world. Maybe the Raptor to make it unique, unlike the Tacoma Pro which is basically a TRD Offroad simply accessorized. THAT'S where Ford can beat the TRD Pro!!!

The F150 base could be the 3.0, no cannibalizing needed.
You can bash or incorrectly compare to Tacoma, BUT, Tacoma is still the best selling sub full-size truck. A real head scratcher huh?

 

[Geoff]

The F150 base could be the 3.0, no cannibalizing needed.
You can bash or incorrectly compare to Tacoma, BUT, Tacoma is still the best selling sub full-size truck. A real head scratcher huh?

No, the real head scratcher is how you keep going on and on about a bigger engine for Ranger. How ford shoulda used the I5, how Ford should re-arrange their truck line up so they can put bigger engines in the Ranger by not offering those in the F150 and upping the engines in the F150 so there is no Ranger crossover. Do you realize how stupid this sounds? Do you realize that NONE OF US HERE CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. Why the fuck do you go on and on about this????

 

[t4thfavor]

No, the real head scratcher is how you keep going on and on about a bigger engine for Ranger. How ford shoulda used the I5, how Ford should re-arrange their truck line up so they can put bigger engines in the Ranger by not offering those in the F150 and upping the engines in the F150 so there is no Ranger crossover. Do you realize how stupid this sounds? Do you realize that NONE OF US HERE CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. Why the fuck do you go on and on about this????

Don't feed the trolls Geoff... I'm not sure, but I think I've seen a similar name on several other boards doing the same exact nonsense. Just pretend like he's not in the room, and eventually he won't be.

 

[Geoff]

Don't feed the trolls Geoff... I'm not sure, but I think I've seen a similar name on several other boards doing the same exact nonsense. Just pretend like he's not in the room, and eventually he won't be.

Yeah, You're right. I logged on first thing this morning and hadn't even sipped the coffee yet and read this BS and had to respond. I'm done now tho.....

 

[IV.f]

I rather see the new 3.0L EB in the upcoming Raptor. It's lighter than the 2.7L (being all aluminum vs. CGI) and can put out up to 400hp.

I’m the exact opposite - I’d rather see the 2.7l because of the CGI block. From what I’ve read the 3.0l is actually the same weight.

(The 2.7 is ~440 lbs & the 3.5 is ~449 lbs)

 

[Floyd]

The F150 base could be the 3.0, no cannibalizing needed.
You can bash or incorrectly compare to Tacoma, BUT, Tacoma is still the best selling sub full-size truck. A real head scratcher huh?

No real head scratcher...
The Ranger was gone for eight years, so the Frontier was the only new midsized left which was better than Tacoma.
I kept my previous Ranger for 18 years and still wasn't ready to trade it for a Tacoma,
I did consider an F1 over the Tacoma but that 6V positive ground made it tough to get the Apps I wanted.

 

[2.7EcoBoost]

After owning and driving this Ranger for almost 1,000 miles now, I can say that I was pretty much spot on with my assessment of the 2.3L after coming from a 2.7L F-150/6 speed. The 2.3L does compare very favorably to a V6 naturally aspirated offering and I think it is a far superior choice to Ford's 3.3L V6. The 2.7L would be a game changer in this truck, whether any of us think the 2.3L is fine or adequate or whatever, the 2.7L would simply blow everybody away. The 2.3L/10 Speed is impressive, but I'm comparing it to the 2.7 as this post is about the 2.7L. The 2.3L definitely feels like it requires more throttle input to get going in spirited driving. It feels like a powerful, very capable, 4 cyl turbo, because, well, it is. The 2.7L feels more like a powerful naturally aspirated V8. I am very impressed with the 10 speed. I thought for sure I'd be getting an occasional down shift "bump" when it by passes gears in certain situations. This thing is smooth as butter thus far. Granted I have not ran it extra hard due to break in. I was impressed enough with the 2.3/10 speed to make the purchase. I still believe based of my real world experience in an F-150, that the 2.7 ( now with the 10 speed ) would likely achieve the same mpg and be an animal in the Ranger. I do not think it would cannibalize the F-150 sales as some keep beating to death. I think the size and price are the main factors for purchasing a Ranger over the F-150. It absolutely was for me. I will say again, that I don't think we'll see a 2.7L Ranger any sooner than the next generation redo. Even if we get a Raptor before that, I think it may be a slighty tuned 2.3L.

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