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I have a 2020 Ranger Lariat and I was working in Forscan to turn off auto start stop.
Well now I have a P0630 code and I can now start the truck without pressing the brake pedal.
That is now causing issues with reprograming because I can't just turn the truck on, it starts up.
When the procedure calls for ignition off then on without starting, I can't do that.
Anyone knows what got changed to allow the truck to start just by pushing the start button.
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I have a 2020 Ranger Lariat and I was working in Forscan to turn off auto start stop.
Well now I have a P0630 code and I can now start the truck without pressing the brake pedal.
That is now causing issues with reprograming because I can't just turn the truck on, it starts up.
When the procedure calls for ignition off then on without starting, I can't do that.
Anyone knows what got changed to allow the truck to start just by pushing the start button.
Undo the changes that you made in Forscan. If you were in the BCM or whatever module you made changes with Forscan, check that your VIN is correct and hasn't been changed.

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P0630 - VIN Not Programmed Or Incompatible - ECM/PCM


Description:
This DTC sets when the PCM detects various VID data that is out of a specified acceptable range.​
Possible Causes:
Diagnostic Aids:
The PCM did not receive a valid vehicle identification number (VIN) during reprogramming. Check for all other module DTCs or related symptoms. Diagnose all other module DTCs before diagnosing this DTC. Reprogram the BCM, instrument cluster, and PCM using as built data. Refer to Section 2, Flash Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory (EEPROM) , Programming The VID Block For A Replacement PCM, to reprogram the PCM.​
Application
Key On Engine Off
Key On Engine Running
Continuous Memory
All​
Refer to the Description, Possible Causes and Diagnostic Aids for the DTC.​
 

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I have a 2020 Ranger Lariat and I was working in Forscan to turn off auto start stop.
Well now I have a P0630 code and I can now start the truck without pressing the brake pedal.
That is now causing issues with reprograming because I can't just turn the truck on, it starts up.
When the procedure calls for ignition off then on without starting, I can't do that.
Anyone knows what got changed to allow the truck to start just by pushing the start button.
What specific changes did you make? - hopefully you made back-ups or wrote down everything,
as far as the - key on but do not start message - if the PB will not let you get it to accy then you have no choice but to start it to get back into forscan

Another Question - Is there a Tune Installed? that may be the reason for the code and that code created the brake not required issue
 
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No tuner. Vin matches. Adjusted tire size and turned off start/ stop.'
Going to pull starter fuse and reset the PCM
 

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Turned off start / stop - more specific to what you actually changed please so i can pinpoint (T-Shoot) what happened - and the tire size change would do it as well as all this ties into Vehicle Learned Data - that is transmitted on the Can-Bus, this the modules talking to each other.
 


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Not sure what I turned off.
I reset PCM and and Bdycm to factory.
Still have engine light P0630 and
code b108A - Start Button code.
 

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Not sure what I turned off.
I reset PCM and and Bdycm to factory.
Still have engine light P0630 and
code b108A - Start Button code.
What do you mean by reset to factory? Did you download your as-built file from Ford and reload the Bdycm and PCM modules with as-built data? You may need to do that, starting with the Bdycm.
 
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That's what I did.
Any changes I did should be back to factory settings.
I rewrote to original when that didn't work rebooted the modules.
Bdycm and PCM.
Still have engine light and I still can start the truck without pushing the brake pedal.
Codes are (P0630 vin not programed), (P06E9 engine starter performance), (U0422 invalid data from Body control) , (U0100, U0101 parking module)
 

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That's what I did.
Any changes I did should be back to factory settings.
I rewrote to original when that didn't work rebooted the modules.
Bdycm and PCM.
Still have engine light and I still can start the truck without pushing the brake pedal.
Codes are (P0630 vin not programed), (P06E9 engine starter performance), (U0422 invalid data from Body control) , (U0100, U0101 parking module)
Have you cleared the codes and they come back?

You could disconnect the negative battery terminal for a few minutes and reconnect it.
 

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The only module you touched = BCM?
Rules of Forscan
Make backups and document what you are changing
Know the outcome of that change
Research First - Do not blindly change anything

Now you are in a situation where - you cannot verify with 100% certainty that you are back to factory (As-Built) data unless you backed it up

You can download the files from Ford and reinstall the original files - Write All or download the file database and go line by line
(Short-Cut Tip) - Go line by line and look at only the (Last 2 values for each line) - this is the checksum of the line - ensure every line matches (Original As-Built) If the last 2 match - the rest of the line is good.

If all match and you were only inside the (BCM) making changes and this does not clear the codes, then you need to run a self-guided program called - Relearn Vehicle Data

This is the point where (without) physically hooking up, I cannot 100% confirm Forscan has this feature / option - my scan tools have it and Ford's - FDRS Software has it

Relearn Vehicle Data - is forcing the modules to crosstalk on the network and handshake the data from module to module the most important of that data is the VIN# and (configured vehicle data) behind it - this is your issue and all the modules do not agree with each other, and it generates the issues you have.
This is the step that is most likely gong to fix the issue - but FIRST verify with 100% certainty that you are back to As-Built configuration, or you may end up bricked and a (No-Start) situation
 

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the auto start would fit, when you take your foot off the brake at a light is when it restarts
Could it be two unrelated things that just happened at the same time (Third Rock syndrome?)
Does it start in Drive without break? that would fit but wouldnt be very safe :(
 
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Disconnected Neg battery terminal.
Still had P0630 code, truck starts without pushing brake pedal and now lost auto window down.
Reset BdyCM to factory .AB files and reboot module
Tried to reset PCM to to factory .AB files but got a message stating block numbers do not match.
I rebooted PCM
Result
No change P0630 code, driver's window doesn't auto down but now needs brake to start
I reset, cleared the DTC
Result
I still have P0630 code, driver's window doesn't auto down and the start without brake came back
So I rebooted BdyCM now truck starts with brake applied. That's back to normal but still have P0630 and no auto window
Strange.
Next step trying to clear P0630 code
 

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Update
Disconnected Neg battery terminal.
Still had P0630 code, truck starts without pushing brake pedal and now lost auto window down.
Reset BdyCM to factory .AB files and reboot module
Tried to reset PCM to to factory .AB files but got a message stating block numbers do not match.
I rebooted PCM
Result
No change P0630 code, driver's window doesn't auto down but now needs brake to start
I reset, cleared the DTC
Result
I still have P0630 code, driver's window doesn't auto down and the start without brake came back
So I rebooted BdyCM now truck starts with brake applied. That's back to normal but still have P0630 and no auto window
Strange.
Next step trying to clear P0630 code
You have to reset the driver's side window after disconnecting the battery. The procedure is in the owner's manual.
 

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Update
Disconnected Neg battery terminal.
Still had P0630 code, truck starts without pushing brake pedal and now lost auto window down.
Reset BdyCM to factory .AB files and reboot module
Tried to reset PCM to to factory .AB files but got a message stating block numbers do not match.
I rebooted PCM
Result
No change P0630 code, driver's window doesn't auto down but now needs brake to start
I reset, cleared the DTC
Result
I still have P0630 code, driver's window doesn't auto down and the start without brake came back
So I rebooted BdyCM now truck starts with brake applied. That's back to normal but still have P0630 and no auto window
Strange.
Next step trying to clear P0630 code
The auto drivers window is a quick fix. Just needs to be reset. Has to be done anytime the battery is disconnected. So that is normal. At least you got the start without brake issue fixed. There are a number of modules that have the VIN coded in them and anyone could be messed up. The Relearn Vehicle Data procedure @airline tech mentioned may be the only way to fix it.

This is always why I recommend the first thing anyone getting into Forscan does is make a backup copy of all the as built files and keep them in a safe location, so you can reload them if something like this happens. Also use the configuration easy menus toake changes if at all possible. Directly editing the as built files can be dangerous. Changing the wrong value can lead to unexpected results and even bricking of the module.
 
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Will do the auto window reset and the relearn vehicle data.
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