Yes you're correct some insurance companies are doing that here but it's been happening in Europe for a while now. One main reason is that when a house inspector goes to inspect the attic he can not see if there's any leaks or mold because the spray foam is in the roof deck. In the video above several people in the comments go into more detail about this and it was a risk I want going to take.
One would think that a spray foam business would be risky venture. Even if done correctly when insurance co says no way that's it, correct or not.
that is a very, very good decision, sir. basically the main reason why i have bothered you with my criticism here... the health problems caused by the isocyanates come gradually and often change depending on the form of the day and general fitness. multiple allergies are only the first signs... i know what i am talking about!
Yes there are dangers and trade offs with everything we do. I've always know about the potential off gassing and the more I dove deeper into it the more horror stories I've seen. Again, I think spray foam has its place in certain areas (dry areas like AZ & NM would be perfect) and certain circumstances but there were/are to many dangerous side effects for me to go through with it. I do have asthma (and a nose like a bloodhound) so the thought of remotely encountering any of this pushed me farther away.
Looks good Dave !Passed all the rough in inspections last week and they just finish insulating the walls Saturday. After many hours of research (probably weeks) I changed my mind on doing spray foam and went with a High Density fiberglass BIB (Blown-In Blanket) system instead. They were there prior to blowing it in air sealing (spray foam) all the penetrations, around the windows and doors and all tight corners and even caulked along the floor. BIBs will not settle and fills all voids when done properly and as much as I wanted to do spray foam I’ve read (and watched) to many horror stories about people getting sick from the off gassing. Granted the main culprit from this is a bad spray job as conditions and the mix need to be perfect.
Sadly I have no faith in people now to do the job right and if I was back home in MA I would’ve 100% done spray foam because I know everyone there. The blown in dense pack is the next best thing and I’m sure that along with the upgraded windows, HVAC and Zip System on the walls and roof will be sufficient. But there’s aways something and good thing I took pictures of every wall before they insulated. They buried the alarm motion wires and the camera wires. ?‍Now the insulation inspection and on to sheetrock!
So exciting! Congratulations to you & Annie on your new home! Looks like it’s coming along nicely.?Passed all the rough in inspections last week and they just finish insulating the walls Saturday. After many hours of research (probably weeks) I changed my mind on doing spray foam and went with a High Density fiberglass BIB (Blown-In Blanket) system instead. They were there prior to blowing it in air sealing (spray foam) all the penetrations, around the windows and doors and all tight corners and even caulked along the floor. BIBs will not settle and fills all voids when done properly and as much as I wanted to do spray foam I’ve read (and watched) to many horror stories about people getting sick from the off gassing. Granted the main culprit from this is a bad spray job as conditions and the mix need to be perfect.
Sadly I have no faith in people now to do the job right and if I was back home in MA I would’ve 100% done spray foam because I know everyone there. The blown in dense pack is the next best thing and I’m sure that along with the upgraded windows, HVAC and Zip System on the walls and roof will be sufficient. But there’s aways something and good thing I took pictures of every wall before they insulated. They buried the alarm motion wires and the camera wires. ?‍
I like what I see there Dave!Passed all the rough in inspections last week and they just finish insulating the walls Saturday. After many hours of research (probably weeks) I changed my mind on doing spray foam and went with a High Density fiberglass BIB (Blown-In Blanket) system instead. They were there prior to blowing it in air sealing (spray foam) all the penetrations, around the windows and doors and all tight corners and even caulked along the floor. BIBs will not settle and fills all voids when done properly and as much as I wanted to do spray foam I’ve read (and watched) to many horror stories about people getting sick from the off gassing. Granted the main culprit from this is a bad spray job as conditions and the mix need to be perfect.
Sadly I have no faith in people now to do the job right and if I was back home in MA I would’ve 100% done spray foam because I know everyone there. The blown in dense pack is the next best thing and I’m sure that along with the upgraded windows, HVAC and Zip System on the walls and roof will be sufficient. But there’s aways something and good thing I took pictures of every wall before they insulated. They buried the alarm motion wires and the camera wires. ?‍
lol I confess. ?‍
There were (and still are) a few things that needed to be fixed but not sure by those pictures which ones you're talking about.
Make sure those can lights are all properly fastened - they hammer in barbs like the ones for positioning joist hangers and usually leave it at that. Sometimes, they don’t bang in all four! There are separate holes for nails or screws in the end of the rails on those cans but they don’t always get used. I don’t know if Electrical Code calls for it or not but why would the holes be there if they weren’t supposed to be used? When you try inserting the trim bezel after changing a bulb and that can just pushes up into the ceiling, you’ll know why. I spent some time in the attic of my new place. I’ll text you the video - it’s too big to post here.lol I confess. ?‍
While my builder is doing a good job it's those small attention to detail things that get missed which I'm sure you're well aware of. One main one was the print originally called for a gas fireplace which was changed well before framing to a zero clearance fireplace. The gas one calls for a RO of 42" opening but the ZC called for a 52" opening which was never changed. I had sent all the specs over to my builder back in October which he never sent to them or caught after framing. The fireplace installer came all the way out on January 3rd and couldn't do it so he then had to make another trip out last Thursday delaying the insulation. Not a huge deal but there were a few more like this that I caught like several can lights in the wrong place, an outlet right where the boot bench goes (which is clearly marked on the print) and ceiling fans not switched separately for light & fan.
Now the framers have to come back again to fix the header over the fireplace. ?‍
I like the progress Dave.lol I confess. ?‍
While my builder is doing a good job it's those small attention to detail things that get missed which I'm sure you're well aware of. One main one was the print originally called for a gas fireplace which was changed well before framing to a zero clearance fireplace. The gas one calls for a RO of 42" opening but the ZC called for a 52" opening which was never changed. I had sent all the specs over to my builder back in October which he never sent to them or caught after framing. The fireplace installer came all the way out on January 3rd and couldn't do it so he then had to make another trip out last Thursday delaying the insulation. Not a huge deal but there were a few more like this that I caught like several can lights in the wrong place, an outlet right where the boot bench goes (which is clearly marked on the print) and ceiling fans not switched separately for light & fan.
Now the framers have to come back again to fix the header over the fireplace. ?‍
Yes, it's finally getting into the finish stage which is the more exciting stage. Now Annie will be able to see things really take shape once they start the drywall which should be sometime later this week. I can't wait to fire up that wood fireplace especially after these single digit temps, it was 4* this morning. ?
That video was something!
Gotcha. I can see the hangers but no cans. Can’t believe I just said that. ?That video was something!
The can lights they're using here are not like the older ones we're use to. They're not the deep boxed ones but a shallow frame where the light pops inside and you can adjust the lighting from 4-5 different settings. There's no bulbs either just a replaceable ring/light when it goes.
If you zoom in a little you can see it in this picture:
