2.7L added to the 'Build and Price'

[Conman50]

I swear I thought they were still using the 10R80. Lots of reviewers said the 6G 2.3L EB had same drive train as 5G.

Does the 2.7 really use an oil pump belt? Really lame lots of manufacturing are doing that now

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[Jedadiah]

I think the only reason Ford used the 10R80 in the 5G Ranger is because it was available. There was no 10R60 until 2021. 590 ft-lbs is kind of overkill form an engineering stand point. 443 ft-lbs makes more sense.

 

[Dunedain Ranger]

I remember the good ole days of 2022 when you could get a XL Supercab FX4. Now you can't even get an XL FX4, let alone a Supercab.

There's definitely something to what you say about no XL. I got my oil changed Saturday and while I was waiting for them to take my Ranger (I always watch when they work on my vehicle), I walked the lot. The dealer has gotten substantially more inventory over the past 6 months. I only saw 1 Ranger - 6g, Lariat, 4X4 Screw. You can't find a single XL in either the Ranger or F-150 - I'm really glad I don't need to buy a new vehicle and happy to have pulled the trigger on my humble Ranger XL SCAB (Lightning Blue I might add!!) in Feb 2020 before the COVID hit - those new vehicle prices are insane, and at the current interest rates as well.

 

[ctechbob]

I swear I thought they were still using the 10R80. Lots of reviewers said the 6G 2.3L EB had same drive train as 5G.

Does the 2.7 really use an oil pump belt? Really lame lots of manufacturing are doing that now

Yup, and it is going to need replacing if you keep the truck long term. I've seen mention of 150,000 miles but I haven't been able to confirm that. Seems reasonable though, and the whole front of the motor has to come apart since it sits behind the timing chains.

 

[ctechbob]

obviously the 10r80 wasnt a headache they wanted to keep using...... The 10R60 is apparently good enough for the RRaptor and the Explorer ST, so it should be stout enought for the 2.3 and 2.7's

Personally I think the 2.7 should be a blast. I love it in my wifes Edge ST and have had it for 40k with no issues.. (other than the stupid plastic oil drain plug leaking once because the service shop didnt change it)

Maybe. If they've applied what they've learned from the 10R140 and 10R80's the the 10R60 then sure, it will be enough. If they just knocked some clutches out of the 10R80 and trimmed down some of the parts, then no.

Lets hope because it was developed later that they put some failure analysis to work.

 

[ctechbob]

From all accounts, the 2.7 is an astoundingly tough built engine (If you can get past the crappy parts sourcing that has screwed over a lot of them.)

The dual injection setup helps (but doesn't cure) the problems of GDI buildup. The bottom end is hella-stout. I don't believe they have the phaser issues the 3.5's do.

And then they slap a limited life oil pump belt on it.

Hopefully he updates this when he looks into the interchangeability of the first gen oil pump chain and the 2nd gen belt. Perhaps Melling will come up with an update kit over time as well.

 

[OBX Guy]

I waited for three years. I gave up on waiting for a workable Maverick PHEV 4x4 pickup. Most available "4x4s" are actually only brake-assisted AWD anyway. In my imagination, a PHEV 4x4 pickup wouldn't be a "rock hopper" though it could be a good beach truck. The options are thin though as the upper market gets the toys first and who wants a $75K truck that can't be trusted on a road trip? I don't want a hybrid that can't plug-in. I wan't to put a couple panels on the roof and not buy gas.

If the "OBX" model Bronco is any indication, Ford isn't that familiar with beaches. The only thing about a beach on the "OBX" model is the stickers. They had an opportunity and blew it. A place to mount recovery boards, a hitch mount on the front, a place to store an air porta-pump. Making a custom beach wagon isn't that hard.

For me, a humble $25K STX Edition fit the bill (in ICE form). No skid plates or other high end rock hopper tech, but it does have an electronic locking differential and a decent electronics package. It came with really pretty 18" rims (those were easily replaced for $ with 265/75/R17s) on (really pretty) Ford 17s. The $50K I saved by NOT buying a Lightning will pay for a shit ton of gas.

 

[Andrew27]

I think the 2.3 w/ Ford Power Pack is a better bargain than the 2.7 without it. Price difference (with dealer install of FPP) is around $1200 and you get less HP and only 15ft/lb more torque. Much simpler layout for repair and maintenance in the 2.3 and I suspect the 2.3 will continue to have a more active aftermarket if you are in to that.

My thoughts too! I love my 2.3 with the power pack! Makes it quite the “sleeper”.

 

[Canadian Ranger]

There's definitely something to what you say about no XL. I got my oil changed Saturday and while I was waiting for them to take my Ranger (I always watch when they work on my vehicle), I walked the lot. The dealer has gotten substantially more inventory over the past 6 months. I only saw 1 Ranger - 6g, Lariat, 4X4 Screw. You can't find a single XL in either the Ranger or F-150 - I'm really glad I don't need to buy a new vehicle and happy to have pulled the trigger on my humble Ranger XL SCAB (Lightning Blue I might add!!) in Feb 2020 before the COVID hit - those new vehicle prices are insane, and at the current interest rates as well.

I've got a 2019 SCab . Happy it's a pre-covid model too! I'm keeping it until it breaks into two pieces in my driveway. Prices and interest rates have me thinking my next vehicle will have to be a Mazda 2 lol.

 

[GhostStrykre]

you know, you all are right about the 2.3L... the transmission gets so much chatter on here, but really the only recurring thing i see on the 2.3L is the "sewing machine" noise that people wish was beefier, the rusted spark plug from rain water (which is not really the engine's fault and more of a trim piece failure), and rarely the radiator fan..

the 2.3L is a pretty great engine.

i'm probably the exact demographic ford had in mind reintroducing the ranger to the states. suburban dweller making home improvement store runs on the weekend, rarely towing around some bikes, and camping out of it. it does sound like the 10R60 is the sweet spot for the new 6G ranger. it'll accomplish my uses with tons of headroom. i'd take this 2.7L if i could because i'm a gullible trout eager to bite marketing's lure of added power and cylinders that i almost certainly don't need.

like others, it'll just come down to ford offering a configuration i want -- crew cab with a long bed (like toyota offers on the new taco).

love what Jedadiah suggested above. the 10R80 was simply what was available at the time. that makes a lot of sense.

 

[Dereku]

Ill keep my overkill transmission. More is better. Always built a trans with plenty of headroom. Dont want to he at the edge of the limit. A bad shift, or tug on a trailer can exceed the limit even with 300ft lbs on tap.

 

[Conman50]

you know, you all are right about the 2.3L... the transmission gets so much chatter on here, but really the only recurring thing i see on the 2.3L is the "sewing machine" noise that people wish was beefier, the rusted spark plug from rain water (which is not really the engine's fault and more of a trim piece failure), and rarely the radiator fan..

the 2.3L is a pretty great engine.

Dont forget the front serpentine belt tensioner freezing up and ripping the belt off and putting holes in your valve cover...

But all jokes aside, the 2.3 does seem to be a solid engine. Very few complaints on here, and several over 100K miles with no issues.

 

[Joeiconic]

I’ll wait for the 2025 refresh to see If they add 4-auto.

 

[Dereku]

I’ll wait for the 2025 refresh to see If they add 4-auto.

Is that really necessary? Its not like we have to turn the hubs anymore. Its a knob to rotate… and one more automatic item to break. Give me awd or selectable. No auto crap. But to each their own.

 

[Count Desmondo]

I remember the good ole days of 2022 when you could get a XL Supercab FX4. Now you can't even get an XL FX4, let alone a Supercab.

THIS!

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