Put money down on 22 bolt EUV

[jflogerzi]

We are getting our first electric car. With gas being 6$ and no relief in site, the 7k rebate from Chevy and CA off the top(another 2k from CA with a rebate) and getting 15k for my wife's 2014 flex with 84k miles on the odometer, it was a no brainer. The car will nearly be free for us. I am thinking payment will be about 100$ a month after gas savings. Plus our house has solar.

Anyone else own an EV. Our stable of cars will be paid for track toy, my ranger and her EV for all around town stuff and short road trips.

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[AdamHarris]

Might want to stock up one these babies!

 

[Jbrubakerjr]

I just purchased a Jeep Wrangler 4xe (PHEV) about a month ago. Traded my 201 Jaguar on it for almost what I paid for it 30 months ago, and it needed like $4k in repairs, so no brainer.

My experience so far has been great! We sue it primarily for commutes around town (Groceries, doctor, church, etc.), and it is awesome not having to stop at the fuel pump.

Couple things to check out, in my opinion:
Does your electric company have Time-Of-Use rates, meaning are their deep discounts for off peak hours. Mine has a rat of about $.01/kWh for off-peak
My electric company also offers a $250 rebate for a UL approved Level 2 charger, which means I could charge in about 2.5 hours (Granted, my 4xe gets only about 28 miles on a full charge)

I have noticed that I also now tend to favor the grocery stores that have the level 2 chargers. There are lots of apps, and I can get my battery topped-off for free for many of my errands (and even some of my destinations)

Out of the 1020 miles on it, over 1/3rd are on electric only. The reason only 1/3rd are electric is I had a 515 mile one-way commute from picking it up.

My son has had a couple Teslas and now has a VW id.4, and has loved all of them for their functionality, if nothing else.

The biggest downside I see to a a complete electric is the stress or iconvenience on long road trips. Some planning has to take place for recharge, but again, their are apps that help with that as well.

 

[jflogerzi]

Might want to stock up one these babies!

Good thing this is the revised battery pack from GM.

 

[jflogerzi]

I just purchased a Jeep Wrangler 4xe (PHEV) about a month ago. Traded my 201 Jaguar on it for almost what I paid for it 30 months ago, and it needed like $4k in repairs, so no brainer.

My experience so far has been great! We sue it primarily for commutes around town (Groceries, doctor, church, etc.), and it is awesome not having to stop at the fuel pump.

Couple things to check out, in my opinion:
Does your electric company have Time-Of-Use rates, meaning are their deep discounts for off peak hours. Mine has a rat of about $.01/kWh for off-peak
My electric company also offers a $250 rebate for a UL approved Level 2 charger, which means I could charge in about 2.5 hours (Granted, my 4xe gets only about 28 miles on a full charge)

I have noticed that I also now tend to favor the grocery stores that have the level 2 chargers. There are lots of apps, and I can get my battery topped-off for free for many of my errands (and even some of my destinations)

Out of the 1020 miles on it, over 1/3rd are on electric only. The reason only 1/3rd are electric is I had a 515 mile one-way commute from picking it up.

My son has had a couple Teslas and now has a VW id.4, and has loved all of them for their functionality, if nothing else.

The biggest downside I see to a a complete electric is the stress or iconvenience on long road trips. Some planning has to take place for recharge, but again, their are apps that help with that as well.

We live in CA so charging stations should not be an issue. My wife loves to plan so it's right up her alley. I was dead set on a plug-in hybrid like the RAV4 prime but honestly the more I thought about it you kinda get the worst of both worlds and the markups are nuts on most plugin hybrids. Congratulations on the 4xe. Her BOLT EUV is a base LT trim with 1 495$ option and thats it. Even base it matches my Ranger in Tech from the XLT 302A package but it has all the tech my wife wants and the range of 250 miles can't be touched as t in it's price point

 

[Dereku]

Might want to stock up one these babies!

Rocket boosters?

 

[Jbrubakerjr]

We live in CA so charging stations should not be an issue. My wife loves to plan so it's right up her alley. I was dead set on a plug-in hybrid like the RAV4 prime but honestly the more I thought about it you kinda get the worst of both worlds and the markups are nuts on most plugin hybrids. Congratulations on the 4xe. It's an LT trim but it has all the tech my wife wants and the range of 250 miles can't be touched as t in it's price point

I would think being in CA you would have some advantages, as well as some rebates available. The question for you would be what is the hard cost up front to get a rebate and then recoup that savings.

I have not pulled the trigger on the level2 charger, as I think it may take some time to get the return on the $600 for install (I can do the electrical), and I have not needed to do a quick charge at home in order to go somewhere else later that day/evening. If that changes, though, I willdo the install, or may do it prior to end of year when the rebate goes away from my local electric provider.

I think for these vehicles it is all about what fits your needs. My wife is now considering an all-electric for herself, but we will never be without at least one vehicle that has an ICE engine, even if it is a PHEV. And maybe I need to install solar panels as well...

 

[jflogerzi]

I would think being in CA you would have some advantages, as well as some rebates available. The question for you would be what is the hard cost up front to get a rebate and then recoup that savings.

I have not pulled the trigger on the level2 charger, as I think it may take some time to get the return on the $600 for install (I can do the electrical), and I have not needed to do a quick charge at home in order to go somewhere else later that day/evening. If that changes, though, I willdo the install, or may do it prior to end of year when the rebate goes away from my local electric provider.

I think for these vehicles it is all about what fits your needs. My wife is now considering an all-electric for herself, but we will never be without at least one vehicle that has an ICE engine, even if it is a PHEV. And maybe I need to install solar panels as well...

Bolt EUV comes with a 40amp LV2 charger for free(basic no frills and no smarts one). Also they give you a 500$ Charging credit or covers the install of the LV2. So its kind of a mute point for us. I agree have one ICE and BEV car is the way to go at this time. This will also allow me to keep the miles down on the Ranger. We already have solar so yea I agree BEV does not fit everyone needs. The big rebates from Chevy and the value of our flex just made the perfect storm to jump in.

 

[Jbrubakerjr]

Bolt EUV comes with a 40amp LV2 charger for free(basic no frills and no smarts one). Also they give you a 500$ Charging credit or covers the install of the LV2. So its kind of a mute point for us. I agree have one ICE and BEV car is the way to go at this time. This will also allow me to keep the miles down on the Ranger. We already have solar so yea I agree BEV does not fit everyone needs. The big rebates from Chevy and the value of our flex just made the perfect storm to jump in.

That is awesome for you! I think the F150 Lightning comes with a L2 charger, but no credit for install.

 

[AdamHarris]

Good thing this is the revised battery pack from GM.

Yea well it’s GM we are talking about here so I would still park at Least 75’ from the house!

 

[Chris M]

" My electric company also offers a $250 rebate for a UL approved Level 2 charger, which means I could charge in about 2.5 hours (Granted, my 4xe gets only about 28 miles on a full charge)"

Only 28 miles on a full charge? Surely that's a typo?

 

[Jbrubakerjr]

" My electric company also offers a $250 rebate for a UL approved Level 2 charger, which means I could charge in about 2.5 hours (Granted, my 4xe gets only about 28 miles on a full charge)"

Only 28 miles on a full charge? Surely that's a typo?

No, it is a Hybrid Plug-in. Supposed to be 21-22, I get about 28. Again - primary purpose is for commutes, not for long trips. I will say, though, that with the 2.0cyl ICE I get around 21 mpg on its own.

 

[Chris M]

No, it is a Hybrid Plug-in. Supposed to be 21-22, I get about 28. Again - primary purpose is for commutes, not for long trips. I will say, though, that with the 2.0cyl ICE I get around 21 mpg on its own.

I must be the thickest man on earth, then.
You only get about 28 miles total out of a full charge, and only about 21 mpg when using gas. I don't understand the benefit of that at all...but then again I suck at numbers and some of the stuff you guys are talking about is WAAAAY beyond me.
The main thing is YOU like it, and I'm glad for you.

 

[Jbrubakerjr]

I must be the thickest man on earth, then.
You only get about 28 miles total out of a full charge, and only about 21 mpg when using gas. I don't understand the benefit of that at all...but then again I suck at numbers and some of the stuff you guys are talking about is WAAAAY beyond me.
The main thing is YOU like it, and I'm glad for you.

Not thick, Chris. For my application, it works. Most of my commutes are 22 miles or less, so since bringing it home I have not purchased any fuel (I topped the gas tank off on Saturday when i was out, it took 1.6 gallons). That was about 300 miles of driving. So do I have electricity cost? Yes, but some of the charging was done at public charging stations (free) and the rest at about $0.01kWh, which is the off peak rate for my utility.

 

[Dereku]

Not thick, Chris. For my application, it works. Most of my commutes are 22 miles or less, so since bringing it home I have not purchased any fuel (I topped the gas tank off on Saturday when i was out, it took 1.6 gallons). That was about 300 miles of driving. So do I have electricity cost? Yes, but some of the charging was done at public charging stations (free) and the rest at about $0.01kWh, which is the off peak rate for my utility.

I get the attraction to a plug in hybrid. You basically get all the pros of both with few cons. Go run all the errands all weekend in town for pennies on the dollar. Still can manage a road trip if needed.

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