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I remember when batteries used to last 4 years, now the ones I've had barely last two.

Has anyone else been driving down the highway and a message appears that says "KEEP YOUR HANDS ON THE STEERING WHEEL ! Well, it's not worded exactly like that, but apparently thinks that no one is steering the vehicle.
It seems my Ranger thinks I forgot about driving and I'm instead shaving or making a sandwich.
I'll let go of the steering wheel every once in awhile on straight stretches of hwy just to see if the lane assist is working properly and it will give that mssg after a few seconds . The electric actuator for the steering can detect even a slight resistance so it can easily tell if your hands are on the wheel . Someone said that turning lane keeping assist off also stops that mssg but I haven't tested if that was accurate or not .
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I've been getting the same screen message recently on my 2019 XLT with the electronics packages. Same battery. 26k miles. My system sounds are also reverting to the basic buzzes which i think is attributed to the lower battery as well. I plan to take it in and assume a replacement battery is in order under warranty.

Related, we were over friends house and they were complaining that their Kia's battery is dead also after sitting, and that it's a wide spread issue with others too. Also related to the number of electronic monitoring and wifi and yada that modern cars use.
 

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I definitely understand the reason why it's happening, from all the electronics, I just think it's ridiculous that they would introduce electronics that can't be sustained by the power system, same with other new vehicles with the same issue. Also not everyone has a garage and somewhere to plug a tender in. I guess we will need charging stations for gas vehicles overloaded with electronics soon. :crazy:
 

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I definitely understand the reason why it's happening, from all the electronics, I just think it's ridiculous that they would introduce electronics that can't be sustained by the power system, same with other new vehicles with the same issue. Also not everyone has a garage and somewhere to plug a tender in. I guess we will need charging stations for gas vehicles overloaded with electronics soon. :crazy:
If I had to guess at the rationale for this, it would be an economic one - to put in a battery that would support these new electronics for "long enough" would require a pretty large battery which would be both expensive to install initially and also expensive to replace. The Battery Management System is an attempt to mitigate all these issues and my guess is that the BMS will get better as time progresses.

Just a bunch of guesses on my part.....
 


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I'll let go of the steering wheel every once in awhile on straight stretches of hwy just to see if the lane assist is working properly and it will give that mssg after a few seconds . The electric actuator for the steering can detect even a slight resistance so it can easily tell if your hands are on the wheel . Someone said that turning lane keeping assist off also stops that mssg but I haven't tested if that was accurate or not .
I have the lane assist turned off and I never get the message. A couple years ago we rented a car and the darn thing kept telling me to pull over and take a coffee break . I finally had to pull over while my gf looked up online how to shut the darn thing off. lol
 

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I have the lane assist turned off and I never get the message. A couple years ago we rented a car and the darn thing kept telling me to pull over and take a coffee break . I finally had to pull over while my gf looked up online how to shut the darn thing off. lol
That's pretty funny cause the wife rode with me the other day and I showed her the mssg . She quickly stated that it should tell me I need a Snickers bar cause it had been a day of particularly stupid drivers and had been complaining constantly :)
 

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I have the lane assist turned off and I never get the message. A couple years ago we rented a car and the darn thing kept telling me to pull over and take a coffee break . I finally had to pull over while my gf looked up online how to shut the darn thing off. lol
One week after I purchased my truck, I got caught in a hurricane driving through I87 in upstate NY and couldn't see anything in front of me, that lane assist was a life saver in those conditions. Since then I have had it off, mostly cause it's just annoying on back roads where I live.
 

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One week after I purchased my truck, I got caught in a hurricane driving through I87 in upstate NY and couldn't see anything in front of me, that lane assist was a life saver in those conditions. Since then I have had it off, mostly cause it's just annoying on back roads where I live.
I'll use it if I'm on the highway on a longer commute but otherwise I don't care for it. I tried it around town and it was way to annoying and it gets messed up if you go into any road construction where the lines have been moved. Gives you a good workout though fighting the wheel. ?
 

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Don't have my Ranger...yet:p but I remember a while back there was a similar thread. From what it sounds like, FORD put cheap batteries in, they sat in their lots until final assembly, and dealers never checked or charged the batteries upon delivery to customers. Some members here have had a FEW OEM battery replacements from the dealers until a battery holding enough charge was obtained. Add the BMS is set to a lower charging setting, to avoid "over charging" and this didn't help matters.
I have had vehicles sit for several weeks during winter (-0 wind chill)and start with no issues. Cold Cranking Amps is what you need and FORD's BMS needs to be changed to charge at 100% or disconnected entirely IMHO.
Back in the day DieHard Gold batteries were worth their weight in...well GOLD;) Used to get a 5 year warranty...now a days your lucky to get three year warranty. So IMHO, between the less quality batteries out there, plus a charging system that doesn't charge 100%, I personally feel this is a recipe for problems. Again, just my opinion. But it's amazing most of my batteries..including the last two cars and one motorcycle battery(which is the only thing a cheap old walmart battery tender) have lasted at least four years (including four winters) and still going strong. Both cars are less than eight years old and have higher tech than the Ranger and I know they draw some curent when off...but still haven't had any starting issues. They both charge to 100%.

Side note: If you ever want to "upgrade" a battery, get the one that has most CCA for your size battery. The CCA is what is most important. Learned this from my mechanic father-in-law many years ago. It has stuck with me and never let me down yet. :rockon:

If I had to guess at the rationale for this, it would be an economic one - to put in a battery that would support these new electronics for "long enough" would require a pretty large battery which would be both expensive to install initially and also expensive to replace. The Battery Management System is an attempt to mitigate all these issues and my guess is that the BMS will get better as time progresses.

Agree with Rob above.
 

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I think (but don't know for sure) that it most likely has to do with the "reporting" that FordPass does - like reporting where your truck is, the mileage, fuel level, etc, etc. Does your Subaru do that as well? I don't know how often the electronics "check in" with Ford, but every time it does, it requires power - and it has to stay awake to listen for signals for things like remote start, remote lock/unlock, etc. It takes a lot more juice to keep a cell modem powered up than it does to just listen for RF waves (for a fob unlock/start).

Again, it is all conjecture by me, but it does make sense to me.
Can you shut the FORDpass off? I havn't taken delivery of mine, but was curious if this can be shut off at my lesuire?
 

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If I had to guess at the rationale for this, it would be an economic one - to put in a battery that would support these new electronics for "long enough" would require a pretty large battery which would be both expensive to install initially and also expensive to replace. The Battery Management System is an attempt to mitigate all these issues and my guess is that the BMS will get better as time progresses.

Just a bunch of guesses on my part.....
It would definitely require a very large battery but I don't really see the issue here as long as the truck itself handles the issue by shutting some systems down to conserve energy . My 2020 was built in Dec 2019 , has the original battery and has only given the mssg twice . Once when it sat at the repair shop for close to 7 weeks waiting on a CV shaft and recently when I was stuck at home with Covid for 3 weeks .
 

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It would definitely require a very large battery but I don't really see the issue here as long as the truck itself handles the issue by shutting some systems down to conserve energy . My 2020 was built in Dec 2019 , has the original battery and has only given the mssg twice . Once when it sat at the repair shop for close to 7 weeks waiting on a CV shaft and recently when I was stuck at home with Covid for 3 weeks .
Well, I don't think I've ever seen the message and mine was built in March of 2019 and still has the original battery. The BMS is supposed to help manage it, which is why you'll get some messages after 14 days of no running it that it is shutting things down. I do think there have been some battery issues as well that have contributed to some problems.
 

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Can you shut the FORDpass off? I havn't taken delivery of mine, but was curious if this can be shut off at my lesuire?
I don't believe you can shut it off unless you remove a fuse for the modem. If anyone knows of way, maybe they can post it here.
 
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I had the same issue with my 2019 Ford Ranger. I read somewhere that you can reset it by doing the following:

1) Ignition on (engine off), headlight flashers 5 times, then brake pedal 3 times. Battery indicator lamp will flash meaning success.

i thought this sounded weird but it worked for me.
By doing these steps, do you know what is being reset? Is the Battery Management System being reset or something else?
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