285 70 17 Wildpeaks are on!!!

[AdamHarris]

I'd bet good money Ford' lawyers made sure they safety tested the sasquatch setup . Did you test /certify yours ?

Oh yea sure man I’ve been out certifying my truck all day.

If what you are saying has Any truth to it at all then great, I can piggyback off that “research” and “legal certification” because I did EXACTLY what Ford did…I took em off.

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[AdamHarris]

Adam, those look great. Do you notice any increase in noise or the ride comfort?

Not at all. If anything they ride Better then the Hancooks. I could not be happier with this swap.

 

[rydfree]

Oh yea sure man I’ve been out certifying my truck all day.

If what you are saying has Any truth to it at all then great, I can piggyback off that “research” and “legal certification” because I did EXACTLY what Ford did…I took em off.

Good luck . I owned a custom accessory shop for 20 years and never removed/disabled any factory safety device . As the other poster alluded to , it's not your safety to be concerned about , it's passengers or anyone else driving your vehicle that gets into a front end collision . I am aquainted with a couple lawsuits over that period that did not have good outcomes for the owner of such vehicles . It's apparent from your reply that you don't care but don't take this post personal , just putting the consequenses out there .

 

[AdamHarris]

Good luck . I owned a custom accessory shop for 20 years and never removed/disabled any factory safety device . As the other poster alluded to , it's not your safety to be concerned about , it's passengers or anyone else driving your vehicle that gets into a front end collision . I am aquainted with a couple lawsuits over that period that did not have good outcomes for the owner of such vehicles . It's apparent from your reply that you don't care but don't take this post personal , just putting the consequenses out there .

Not taking anything personal at all. I just want you to explain Ford’s deletion of them on Broncos. That’s all. And not do make up something like “well they placed additional separate bracing etc etc” No, they did not, they deleted them. Why is my Ranger more in need of them then a 21 Bronco??

 

[AdamHarris]

Y’all I hate to tell you there is nothing magical about these “crash bars”.

They were added as an afterthought by the factory anyway in order to get a good frontal or frontal offset crash rating. Are they stupid? No. Are they absolutely essential for the safety of myself and my passengers, No.

I can promise you if I ever run all over someone and smash the front of my truck, no one, and I mean NO one is going to inspect the wreckage and say “Look! he deleted his crash bars..call the lawyer”. Alot of things can happen in life but this will Never happen.

 

[D Fresh]

Not taking anything personal at all. I just want you to explain Ford’s deletion of them on Broncos. That’s all. And not do make up something like “well they placed additional separate bracing etc etc” No, they did not, they deleted them. Why is my Ranger more in need of them then a 21 Bronco??

Because if a lot technician takes your hypothetical Bronco out for a test drive after alignment, has an offset front end collision and breaks his leg he can try to sue Ford.

If a lot tech takes your Ranger out for a test drive, has the same collision and has a major injury guess who he gets to sue now?

If that 20 year old lot tech is disabled and cannot work you're paying his salary until retirement age. At even only $15/hr that's almost 1.5 million dollars in lost wages ALONE. Let alone their medical bills.

Now imagine that accident happens on the other side while you're taking your mom to Mother's Day brunch?

Personally, I would steer clear of deleting safety equipment on any vehicle that wasn't exclusively used by and ridden in by myself.

The difference is one of liability. Ford has the research to back up their decision and a multimillion dollar legal team. Most of us do not.

My suggestion. If you're gonna play with crashbars I would check my insurance policy and look into upping coverage or an umbrella policy. And I HATE insurance.

 

[CarbonTremor]

You really should IMO. I believe Tremors should have came with this tire size from the factory. I really thought there would be more drawbacks like sluggishness, wallowness etc. mpg will drop I’m sure but that will be the only drawback. Pic really don’t do the look justice, has tp be seen in person.

At first I thought the tremor tires looked perfect compared to the fx4. Then seeing the ranger raptor vs the tremor, I think the 285s look perfect lol . .

 

[D Fresh]

Y’all I hate to tell you there is nothing magical about these “crash bars”.

They were added as an afterthought by the factory anyway in order to get a good frontal or frontal offset crash rating. Are they stupid? No. Are they absolutely essential for the safety of myself and my passengers, No.

I can promise you if I ever run all over someone and smash the front of my truck, no one, and I mean NO one is going to inspect the wreckage and say “Look! he deleted his crash bars..call the lawyer”. Alot of things can happen in life but this will Never happen.

You don't think lawyers have the ability to search the internet?

I mean you're not even posting under a pseudonym.

You don't think that my hypothetical lot tech would know the truck was modified?

You don't think that there are some lawyers that are automotive/offroad enthusiasts and absolutely would know to look for this?

You don't think that the lawyers team might notice the truck was modified, and search forums for any posts regarding possible modifications to safety devices?

You don't think that when faced with the possibility of a multi million dollar payday for their firm they wouldn't exhaust all resources?

Congrats, my friend. You've never had to deal with a lawyer.

 

[AdamHarris]

Guys I’m sorry but y’all are way up high in hypothetical land with this. Way out there.

These are NOT the same thing as seat belts. Not the same as Airbags. Not the same thing as crumple zones. They are literally like 9” long and just hang out like a bicycle pegs. Until I see a crash test with vs without them showing they prevent wheel intrusion into the floor pan (only benefit of any I can see at all) my opinion remains the same.

Ford is NOT going to put itself in ANY kind of unnecessary liability situation especially with such a high profile vehicle like the Bronco. If crash bars were SO important Ford would have bolted modified bars on the Squach. Did they do that? No

 

[AdamHarris]

At first I thought the tremor tires looked perfect compared to the fx4. Then seeing the ranger raptor vs the tremor, I think the 285s look perfect lol . .

That’s what started it for me. I saw a Tremor in person for the first time and those 265 70s looked SO much better then the 265 65s I had. Pics did not do that justice either, had to be seen.

 

[AdamHarris]

You don't think lawyers have the ability to search the internet?

I mean you're not even posting under a pseudonym.

You don't think that my hypothetical lot tech would know the truck was modified?

You don't think that there are some lawyers that are automotive/offroad enthusiasts and absolutely would know to look for this?

You don't think that the lawyers team might notice the truck was modified, and search forums for any posts regarding possible modifications to safety devices?

You don't think that when faced with the possibility of a multi million dollar payday for their firm they wouldn't exhaust all resources?

Congrats, my friend. You've never had to deal with a lawyer.

Man thank you but I’m just not gonna live my life afraid of Lawyers and litigation. Like my tire boner life’s just too short..

 

[D Fresh]

Man thank you but I’m just not gonna live my life afraid of Lawyers and litigation. Like my tire boner life’s just too short..

Different strokes for different folks.

It's not a matter of fear. It's a matter of being pragmatic. I've worked my entire life to put myself where I am. I'm not going to risk everything my family and I have just for the desire to fit wider tires.

Doesn't matter how big it makes your dick feel. It's not worth it to me. Great thing about life is we can all decide what we value ourselves.

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

I was buying a used Ranger on the lot with 70,000 km on it, specifically to do a build without voiding the warranty and wasting the money on a new vehicle. They said they could do the lift without affecting the warranty, and I bought new with lift and winch to be installed by them.

I met with the Service Manager and told him specifically "Everything you do, has to keep the vehicle within warranty coverage and safety rating. I want the most lift you can do without a diff drop, and a hidden winch installed". I made no mention of an aftermarket bumper. A few days later he texted "I can't get a hidden winch for 3-4 months, but I can get a Warn Ascent front bumper with winch mount and it meets all your requirements". I said go ahead. When I arrived for to pick it up, he was there to review it all. He talked about the bumper with the new front skid plate, and from around the side pointed out all the bumper support and front crash bars removed. "They had to go, because the part they mount to is gone. No worries they are useless anyway. When you get your tires/rims you may have to adjust or remove the rears as well. Not much to it, take those two bolts out and they should slide out".

Just sharing my experience and his opinion as he shared it with me. Take from it what you will.

 

[AdamHarris]

I was buying a used Ranger on the lot with 70,000 km on it, specifically to do a build without voiding the warranty and wasting the money on a new vehicle. They said they could do the lift without affecting the warranty, and I bought new with lift and winch to be installed by them.

I met with the Service Manager and told him specifically "Everything you do, has to keep the vehicle within warranty coverage and safety rating. I want the most lift you can do without a diff drop, and a hidden winch installed". I made no mention of an aftermarket bumper. A few days later he texted "I can't get a hidden winch for 3-4 months, but I can get a Warn Ascent front bumper with winch mount and it meets all your requirements". I said go ahead. When I arrived for to pick it up, he was there to review it all. He talked about the bumper with the new front skid plate, and from around the side pointed out all the bumper support and front crash bars removed. "They had to go, because the part they mount to is gone. No worries they are useless anyway. When you get your tires/rims you may have to adjust or remove the rears as well. Not much to it, take those two bolts out and they should slide out".

Just sharing my experience and his opinion as he shared it with me. Take from it what you will.

Thanks for sharing a real world scenario . Prepare to have you a”# handed to you though by the self imposed Safety committee..

 

[gwhalin]

What is with the crash bar police crashing this thread. It is his truck and he is not putting anyone else at risk other than him and his passengers. Might I suggest the legal team crashing this thread mind their own business?

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