2020 Adaptive Cruise Control Stop and Go Feature

[slowmachine]

I think it is important to make a distinction between Pre-Collision Assist with Automatic Emergency Braking and Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop and Go. I use the Adaptive Cruise nearly every day, but I have never allowed it to stop the truck. On the Co-Pilot 360 web page, Ford does not list the Stop and Go feature as available on the Ranger, but they do on other models, like the F150. The purpose of Stop and Go is to enable the vehicle to creep forward in a traffic jam without driver input. In this mode, the distance from the vehicle in front would be less than a single car length, certainly nothing like 40 feet. It would be possible to enable Stop and Go at low speed, less than the 12 MPH cutoff for Cruise Control, or even from a dead stop. As far as I know, this is not how the Ranger works.

There has been a fair amount of discussion (some mine) about the inaccuracy and incompleteness of the Owner’s Manual, and I would not be surprised if it were wrong about Stop and Go. However, I find it harder to believe that every reference to Stop and Go is wrong.

It would be good to devise a low-risk test to see how the Ranger responds to low-speed obstacles in front of the truck. I’d guess that none of us have disposable Rangers to crash into anything, so it could be something like cardboard boxes or an inflatable mattress. I’m very curious.

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[konar]

My 2020 lariat, with emergency braking, will stop the vehicle on its on, and resume speed when the vehicle in front moves on. Kind of scary to trust it, but especially at highway speeds, works good!!

Your vehicle comes to a complete stop in traffic and continues to drive all by itself? I think you are just describing the normal ACC function.

 

[konar]

I think it is important to make a distinction between Pre-Collision Assist with Automatic Emergency Braking and Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop and Go. I use the Adaptive Cruise nearly every day, but I have never allowed it to stop the truck. On the Co-Pilot 360 web page, Ford does not list the Stop and Go feature as available on the Ranger, but they do on other models, like the F150. The purpose of Stop and Go is to enable the vehicle to creep forward in a traffic jam without driver input. In this mode, the distance from the vehicle in front would be less than a single car length, certainly nothing like 40 feet. It would be possible to enable Stop and Go at low speed, less than the 12 MPH cutoff for Cruise Control, or even from a dead stop. As far as I know, this is not how the Ranger works.

There has been a fair amount of discussion (some mine) about the inaccuracy and incompleteness of the Owner’s Manual, and I would not be surprised if it were wrong about Stop and Go. However, I find it harder to believe that every reference to Stop and Go is wrong.

It would be good to devise a low-risk test to see how the Ranger responds to low-speed obstacles on front of the truck. I’d guess that none of us have disposable Rangers to crash into anything, so it could be something like cardboard boxes or an inflatable mattress. I’m very curious.

I've let my ACC take me to the minimum speed of 12mph but at that point, ACC braking will turn off and it gives you a warning message on your dash screen. At that point, if you don't control it, the vehicle will continue to presumably move and crash into the vehicle in front of you, which I've never actually done but after testing it a few times that seems to be the case.

 

[tivct]

The Ranger has ACC, but does not have Stop & Go. Regardless of what marketing/manuals may say. It simply doesn't have it. If cruise is active, it will deactivate at 12mph, before stopping. In other words, it doesn't... stop.

If you're still adamant that you have Stop & Go, by all means try it out. Make sure to take a video. And have AAA on speed-dial.

 

[tivct]

so my experience with ACC....

once had emergency braking applied because the cars in front slowed considerably i think someone brake checked someone else. it was hard and harsh, with all the bells going off. and i can't recall if the system was disabled after that. but because i applied the brakes as well, the cruise control shuts off. hitting resume wasn't on my mind at the time.

to have stop at go at highway speeds would be ridiculous.
the only safe way to manage this feature is at slow speeds only, which would require a completely different set of parameters to monitor. and likely another button to push saying, look truck, I'm in stop and go traffic and i want to stop paying attention now, can you take over? The wifey wants to give me some RH. at which point you would activate the stop and go feature.
i highly doubt the 19's or 20's have any of this embedded. maybe the 21's or 22's will. who knows, but the gray area in between stop and go, and the ACC/Emerg braking is not going to mix well with each other with Fords current systems

Not sure what you mean by having Stop & Go at highway speeds. It's kinda hard to be stopped at highway speeds.

On Ford vehicles that have S&G, it's quite seamless.

 

[HoosierT]

Yea, I'll chime in here by saying that we positively don't have stop and go. Adaptive Cruise and emergency braking ARE NOT the same as cruise with stop and go. Our trucks will not just creep and stop in stop and go traffic. Adaptive cruise alone does not achieve that, period. We just got my wife an Escape Titanium Hybrid last week and it indeed has stop and go. Says it on the sticker, in the manual, in the brochure, etc. You will not find any mention of the words "stop and go" in any verbiage pertaining to the Ranger. Zero...

 

[tivct]

thats fine...it was designed to be that way. and one day i am sure all cars will come standard with it.


but if anyone thinks they are going into forescan to mine out some check box and make a few clicks, it'll never happen . and I'm sure you will agree, the computer likely is not programed for it, and most likely does not have any of the hardware to make it work.

the pipedream can only be realised by buying a vehicle with it active from the factory

That marketing video is misleading in the fact it used a Ranger graphic. it tells me something is coming down the road, but everything else says it is not available yet.

Correct, it's not something that Forscan will ever be able to do for us.

Anybody waiting For S&G on a Ranger will need to wait for the next gen.

 

[Drew Toner]

I think it is important to make a distinction between Pre-Collision Assist with Automatic Emergency Braking and Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop and Go. I use the Adaptive Cruise nearly every day, but I have never allowed it to stop the truck. On the Co-Pilot 360 web page, Ford does not list the Stop and Go feature as available on the Ranger, but they do on other models, like the F150. The purpose of Stop and Go is to enable the vehicle to creep forward in a traffic jam without driver input. In this mode, the distance from the vehicle in front would be less than a single car length, certainly nothing like 40 feet. It would be possible to enable Stop and Go at low speed, less than the 12 MPH cutoff for Cruise Control, or even from a dead stop. As far as I know, this is not how the Ranger works.

There has been a fair amount of discussion (some mine) about the inaccuracy and incompleteness of the Owner’s Manual, and I would not be surprised if it were wrong about Stop and Go. However, I find it harder to believe that every reference to Stop and Go is wrong.

It would be good to devise a low-risk test to see how the Ranger responds to low-speed obstacles in front of the truck. I’d guess that none of us have disposable Rangers to crash into anything, so it could be something like cardboard boxes or an inflatable mattress. I’m very curious.

My test completed successfully!

Your mileage may differ!!

God hates a coward!

I even showed a friend how this system worked, 100kph to zero, wait at stop sign for vehicle to leave, then 0 to 100 again!

All the while I'm texting away!! KIDDING!!! (About the texting part)

I ll be honest and say that it's reactions to the stopping, is not how we would drive normally. Like it waits till the last minute, or distance I suppose, to start braking. But it will stop, wait and resume driving!!
Drew

 

[Drew Toner]

The Ranger has ACC, but does not have Stop & Go. Regardless of what marketing/manuals may say. It simply doesn't have it. If cruise is active, it will deactivate at 12mph, before stopping. In other words, it doesn't... stop.

If you're still adamant that you have Stop & Go, by all means try it out. Make sure to take a video. And have AAA on speed-dial.

My 2020 lariat, will stop my vehicle behind a vehicle at a stop sign, down from 100kph, then resume speed when the vehicle in front pulls away from the sign. I've done it twice now.
Your adaptive cruise, with the emergency braking feature should do the same!

I think that the stop and go I'm describing, is differant than others interpretation of stop and go.
Drew

 

[Drew Toner]

i think it's different too.
i think your ranger has a problem because the cruise doesnt kick off under 12mph.

you should get that checked out.

and in the meantime post up a video of it coming to a stop and then going again

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[HoosierT]

Standby!

Anyone reading this thread. Please disregard Drew’s posts. He’s using an emergency feature that’s not intended to be used in a stop and go fashion. Someone is going to get hurt.

 

[Obijack]

Anyone reading this thread. Please disregard Drew’s posts. He’s using an emergency feature that’s not intended to be used in a stop and go fashion. Someone is going to get hurt.

Thanks Dad.

 

[HoosierT]

Thanks Dad.

Grow up, it’s a matter of well-being.

 

[P. A. Schilke]

Hi Folks,

As this is a safety matter to assume you have a feature that is not addressed in the owner's manual is of Major Concern to me. Yes the owner's manual has omissions, but of this magnitude is highly unlikely. Please call Ford Customer Care and log a complaint that stop and go is not covered in the owners manual. If we get enough folks to complain they will have to address this feature is not there or that the owner's manual is in error. I doubt it is in error as the ACC drops out at 12 mph or so. Just because F-Series has a feature does not mean that Ranger also has this feature. AEB is not the solution.

Best,
Phil Schilke
Ranger Vehicle Engineering
Ford Motor Co. Retired

 

[Obijack]

Grow up, it’s a matter of well-being.

Frankly I’m of the mind set that if someone is this stupid, they deserve to wreck their truck. Sucks to be the person who gets hit. But this is the world we live in where we have allowed stupid to become the new normal.

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