Tune or dual exhaust?

[NurseNeil]

Don’t remember the costs off the top of my head, would need to dig out the receipts. Bought the Ford tune from Levittown, current price is better than what I paid, hit up Benny for a code. Used points toward the dealer install of the tune.

That's what I was thinking and I have a Ford credit card to earn them back.

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[NurseNeil]

For the money you spend on a tune, I would go with one that gives the most return for the money.

Livernois is an established company with great reputation and awesome service.

More power than Ford. Plus you get like 4 tunes. All for what 400 bucks.

Plus you get the device that can read codes, change tire size, etc.

Exhaust on a stock vehicle is mostly a waste of money. Might sound better, but you aint getting noticeable power gains on a cat back exhaust. And dual exhaust on a 4 banger? Hehe.

I just like the look honestly

 

[MinuteMan]

I could be wrong but,

I have always taken the position that I should complete all of my physical changes to the vehicle before getting a tune. Maybe its because I'm old and that's the way we used to do things in the early 2000s. Maybe things have changed.

Anyway, I added a cleanable AEM air filter, a dual exhaust by MBRP. I was going to go with the Gibson but after hearing the MBRP, it was more to my liking. I added a 2.5" lift to the front and 265/70/17s. Now I'm trying to decide what tune to get but before that, I'm wondering what other little modifications or direct part swaps I can make to enhance the tune when I decide.

One of you mentioned 4 tunes for $400 and a tool for adjusting the PCM for tire size. Does anyone have a link and your comments or suggestions would be welcome.

BTW, I am running 40 PSI in my tires and was considering increasing to 42-43. "Frenchy" told me to run 30 PSI but I disagree with him. Anyone with any PSI secrets as it relates to a tune, I would love to hear your info as well.

Thank you,
MM

 

[AzScorpion]

I could be wrong but,

I have always taken the position that I should complete all of my physical changes to the vehicle before getting a tune. Maybe its because I'm old and that's the way we used to do things in the early 2000s. Maybe things have changed.

Anyway, I added a cleanable AEM air filter, a dual exhaust by MBRP. I was going to go with the Gibson but after hearing the MBRP, it was more to my liking. I added a 2.5" lift to the front and 265/70/17s. Now I'm trying to decide what tune to get but before that, I'm wondering what other little modifications or direct part swaps I can make to enhance the tune when I decide.

One of you mentioned 4 tunes for $400 and a tool for adjusting the PCM for tire size. Does anyone have a link and your comments or suggestions would be welcome.

BTW, I am running 40 PSI in my tires and was considering increasing to 42-43. "Frenchy" told me to run 30 PSI but I disagree with him. Anyone with any PSI secrets as it relates to a tune, I would love to hear your info as well.

Thank you,
MM

Frenchy is right in that 40 psi is way to high. I have 265/70/17 Nitto Ridge Grapplers and I'm at 32 psi. Best way to determine what's best is do the chalk test.

Most tuner boxes will let you adjust for tire size. I have a Livernois tune and the Mycal is the same tuner box and the Ford Procal where you can adjust the tire size and gearing.

 

[Doc]

Unleashed Tune ...

 

[Mcssls]

Exhaust is cosmetic and sound. No real performance gains. Tuner = hp

 

[NurseNeil]

I could be wrong but,

I have always taken the position that I should complete all of my physical changes to the vehicle before getting a tune. Maybe its because I'm old and that's the way we used to do things in the early 2000s. Maybe things have changed.

Anyway, I added a cleanable AEM air filter, a dual exhaust by MBRP. I was going to go with the Gibson but after hearing the MBRP, it was more to my liking. I added a 2.5" lift to the front and 265/70/17s. Now I'm trying to decide what tune to get but before that, I'm wondering what other little modifications or direct part swaps I can make to enhance the tune when I decide.

One of you mentioned 4 tunes for $400 and a tool for adjusting the PCM for tire size. Does anyone have a link and your comments or suggestions would be welcome.

BTW, I am running 40 PSI in my tires and was considering increasing to 42-43. "Frenchy" told me to run 30 PSI but I disagree with him. Anyone with any PSI secrets as it relates to a tune, I would love to hear your info as well.

Thank you,
MM

MAkes sense to physically mod then tune. Probably do pipes then do tune. There was a good thread about psi and all. I need to bring mine down. Makes for a more car like ride supposedly.

 

[MinuteMan]

Ok...

Thank you. I hear you. The chalk test is important for a variety of reasons and directly corelates to PSI. I'm with you.

Hear me out.

In the summer, I run high. In the winter I run about 40 which is still high. In snow or ice or dirt, I'm not sure what I would do. I live in the valley. I drive off road 20 days a year. I'm a commuter. Other than wearing out your tires prematurely in the center and not having a the full contact patch on the roadway at all times, what is the downfall? The upside is increased mileage and a little stiffer ride. Lol. When you step on the gas at 30-32 PSI, the truck is too slow to respond. It takes a second to wake up. That is kind of why I am thinking about a tune.

Today a Fiesta drove by and the blow off valve on that thing was super loud. It was cool. Any other bolt on mods before a tune? I'm all ears.

Many thanks,
MM

 

[AzScorpion]

Ok...

Thank you. I hear you. The chalk test is important for a variety of reasons and directly corelates to PSI. I'm with you.

Hear me out.

In the summer, I run high. In the winter I run about 40 which is still high. In snow or ice or dirt, I'm not sure what I would do. I live in the valley. I drive off road 20 days a year. I'm a commuter. Other than wearing out your tires prematurely in the center and not having a the full contact patch on the roadway at all times, what is the downfall? The upside is increased mileage and a little stiffer ride. Lol. When you step on the gas at 30-32 PSI, the truck is too slow to respond. It takes a second to wake up. That is kind of why I am thinking about a tune.

Today a Fiesta drove by and the blow off valve on that thing was super loud. It was cool. Any other bolt on mods before a tune? I'm all ears.

Many thanks,
MM

A tune will defiantly help with the low end bog. Drop it in S mode and a tune will wake it up even more than that.

As far as the tire pressure just remember that also having less contact on the road will hurt you if/when you need to stop fast. Also more chances of hydroplaning with less rubber on the ground but that's not much of an issue here as we get about 9" of rain per year. If you like the stiffer ride and realize the downside then I'd keep them where you feel they're the most comfortable. Maybe after you tune it you can play around with the psi and adjust from there.

 

[Doc]

MAkes sense to physically mod then tune. Probably do pipes then do tune. There was a good thread about psi and all. I need to bring mine down. Makes for a more car like ride supposedly.

Just get a tune then update mods accordingly ...
Best bang for the buck ...

 

[Doc]

Exhaust is cosmetic and sound. No real performance gains. Tuner = hp

Right ...minimal improvement from exhaust. The purveyors will give their brand a hard sell, but 2% improvement is not measurable...delete the muffler, get a tune and be done with it..JMHO

 

[OFC Ranger]

While a tune does significantly increase HP and TQ, that low end bog you are probably not happy with actually has nothing to do with the engine factory power.

It is the electronic controlled throttle body. Back in the day a physical wire connected your gas pedal to the throttle body, now its all electronic. This is how Sport mode feels more responsive, however it holds the gears far too long for most peoples taste.

If you just want the truck to go when you press the pedal with your big toe regardless if you are just grocery shopping or actually trying to go fast, look at something like the iDrive or Pedal Commander.

However for about $200 more you can get a tuner, which also does the same function as the above devices.

I describe the factory throttle response as squishy and sluggish. Like 1/4 pedal depression to even start moving. The above products make it so any pressure on the pedal begins the truck moving.

 

[landiscarrier]

Exhaust if you want to sound like a Civic.
Tune if you want to go fast.

haha!

 

[aeroshots]

Ok...

Thank you. I hear you. The chalk test is important for a variety of reasons and directly corelates to PSI. I'm with you.

Hear me out.

In the summer, I run high. In the winter I run about 40 which is still high. In snow or ice or dirt, I'm not sure what I would do. I live in the valley. I drive off road 20 days a year. I'm a commuter. Other than wearing out your tires prematurely in the center and not having a the full contact patch on the roadway at all times, what is the downfall? The upside is increased mileage and a little stiffer ride. Lol. When you step on the gas at 30-32 PSI, the truck is too slow to respond. It takes a second to wake up. That is kind of why I am thinking about a tune.

Today a Fiesta drove by and the blow off valve on that thing was super loud. It was cool. Any other bolt on mods before a tune? I'm all ears.

Many thanks,
MM

Run that psi with a tune and you'll need to budget for new rear tires soon. Wet road acceleration at that PSI with a tune.....hang on and have some toilet paper handy.

 

[Doc]

Exhaust if you want to sound like a Civic.
Tune if you want to go fast.

haha!

You can do what you want to these motors in terms of exhaust , unless you add a Fart can, there is no way you can make it sound like a Civic ...
Regards

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