Manual hubs?

[Dieseldean1]

Has anyone seen manual hubs for the 2019 and newer Rangers? That, and the tune, and it’ll be complete.

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[Frenchy]

No manual hub are available and arent necessary either. With how the 2019 and up ranger is designed(at this time) the hubs are always 100% engaged wich means the front diff and front driveshaft are always moving. With that said the only thing that happens when engaging 4wd is the transfercase being switched from 2hi to 4hi and 4lo. Other than that nothing really happens.

 

[DrizzyDrake]

Has anyone seen manual hubs for the 2019 and newer Rangers? That, and the tune, and it’ll be complete.

Honestly, not worth it. The point to hubs is for better fuel economy. And then the tune will give you worse economy. Just get the tune and you will be happy. If you want real 4x4-ness, do a front solid axle conversion.

 

[Frenchy]

Honestly, not worth it. The point to hubs is for better fuel economy. And then the tune will give you worse economy. Just get the tune and you will be happy. If you want real 4x4-ness, do a front solid axle conversion.

As stated already the hubs I. These trucks are static and considered 100% engaged all the time. With that said there really isnt a good conversion that is really worth it. Also for a tune you can get better fuel mileage depending on the tune and you foot. I have Livernois and depending on my conditions(even at 70 MPH) I can see close to 30 MPG.

 

[DrizzyDrake]

As stated already the hubs I. These trucks are static and considered 100% engaged all the time. With that said there really isnt a good conversion that is really worth it. Also for a tune you can get better fuel mileage depending on the tune and you foot. I have Livernois and depending on my conditions(even at 70 MPH) I can see close to 30 MPG.

Yes. 100% of the time. So if there was a way to put manual hubs, you would then get some economy savings, but not enough. And most people with a tune want to feel the tune. Besides, I haven't heard many people do a before and after fuel economy test for the tunes. (Like same conditions). 30mpg so like 7.8L/100km. I can get that with A/T road tires that came with the truck, with constant speed on a flat surface. But these trucks are already tuned for fuel economy. If there was more fuel savings to be made, ford would have done it to please the EPA gods. Same goes for the hubs. Obviously the cost to make them locking like F150's was not worth the slight fuel savings.

 

[Frenchy]

Yes. 100% of the time. So if there was a way to put manual hubs, you would then get some economy savings, but not enough. And most people with a tune want to feel the tune. Besides, I haven't heard many people do a before and after fuel economy test for the tunes. (Like same conditions). 30mpg so like 7.8L/100km. I can get that with A/T road tires that came with the truck, with constant speed on a flat surface. But these trucks are already tuned for fuel economy. If there was more fuel savings to be made, ford would have done it to please the EPA gods. Same goes for the hubs. Obviously the cost to make them locking like F150's was not worth the slight fuel savings.

Lol I have done my own before and after testing with the tune and other modifications on the truck. Before the tune the best I was able to get was 23(not bad for a 4x4) and now with tune with lift and much bigger tires I am able to see close to 30(mind you that is average, not just on a flat road or down hill). Its the nice thing about a turbocharged vehicle especially with a nice tune from a reputable company. Get a shit tune from a shit company(5star) then chances are your results will not be that great. Drive like a bat out of Hell(who here doesnt from time to time) and you can throq those MPG's out the window. Oh and mind you this was all done here in the Colorado Rockies.

 

[DrizzyDrake]

Lol I have done my own before and after testing with the tune and other modifications on the truck. Before the tune the best I was able to get was 23(not bad for a 4x4) and now with tune with lift and much bigger tires I am able to see close to 30(mind you that is average, not just on a flat road or down hill). Its the nice thing about a turbocharged vehicle especially with a nice tune from a reputable company. Get a shit tune from a shit company(5star) then chances are your results will not be that great. Drive like a bat out of Hell(who here doesnt from time to time) and you can throq those MPG's out the window. Oh and mind you this was all done here in the Colorado Rockies.

Yes I remember where you live. You have said it multiple times on here. And I remember as I live in the Canadian rockies with undoubtedly steeper passes. But my question is did you keep many controlled variables? Like drove same route with cruise control and was using premium before as well? Was the temperature and humidity the same? These all can play a big part and could skew results if they are not all roughly the same. Having worked in a performance shop: never once have I heard someone say they got better fuel economy after a tune unless the previous tune was absolute garbage.

 

[canyonslicker]

? sure I wanna get old school, how about an extra floor shifter for high and low range…

I’m an old guy that had ‘98 Ranger vacuum locking front hubs that failed and my dealer tried to void my warranty because I went in sand off-road… Go figure since it was advertised as an off-road vehicle.. it didn’t fly..

The new technology is great and should be very welcome..

 

[Frenchy]

Yes I remember where you live. You have said it multiple times on here. And I remember as I live in the Canadian rockies with undoubtedly steeper passes. But my question is did you keep many controlled variables? Like drove same route with cruise control and was using premium before as well? Was the temperature and humidity the same? These all can play a big part and could skew results if they are not all roughly the same. Having worked in a performance shop: never once have I heard someone say they got better fuel economy after a tune unless the previous tune was absolute garbage.

Indeed I did make sure I took the same routes, same temperature, same fuel, even using cruise control. Even to my suprise I got the extra MPG and to say the least I wasnt complaining since I use 91 all the time out here(93 isnt avalible here)

 

[Dgc333]

But these trucks are already tuned for fuel economy. If there was more fuel savings to be made, ford would have done it to please the EPA gods. Same goes for the hubs. Obviously the cost to make them locking like F150's was not worth the slight fuel savings.

They are also tuned to meet EPA requirements which do not always give you the best mileage. Aftermarket tunes with few exceptions (FP for one) are not EPA certified and are created for best performance which also is more efficient.

Over the past 36 years of driving turbo 4s all of them were tuned and all of the got the same or better mileage with most being better.

 

[D Fresh]

Lol I have done my own before and after testing with the tune and other modifications on the truck. Before the tune the best I was able to get was 23(not bad for a 4x4) and now with tune with lift and much bigger tires I am able to see close to 30(mind you that is average, not just on a flat road or down hill). Its the nice thing about a turbocharged vehicle especially with a nice tune from a reputable company. Get a shit tune from a shit company(5star) then chances are your results will not be that great. Drive like a bat out of Hell(who here doesnt from time to time) and you can throq those MPG's out the window. Oh and mind you this was all done here in the Colorado Rockies.

There's absolutely no way possible you are seeing 30mpg averages in the mountains. Tune or no tune.

 

[Frenchy]

There's absolutely no way possible you are seeing 30mpg averages in the mountains. Tune or no tune.

Did you notice how I specified close? It is definitely possible. Not necessarily easy but possible. Realistically it was between 27 and 28 which is still considered close to 30. Again that is still all depending on the conditions I'm having to deal with. Obviously if you're going straight up the hill you're not seeing any good fuel mileage whatsoever. If you're going downhill you're going to see infinite fuel mileage. Whether you like it or not it is true.

 

[D Fresh]

Did you notice how I specified close? It is definitely possible. Not necessarily easy but possible. Realistically it was between 27 and 28 which is still considered close to 30. Again that is still all depending on the conditions I'm having to deal with. Obviously if you're going straight up the hill you're not seeing any good fuel mileage whatsoever. If you're going downhill you're going to see infinite fuel mileage. Whether you like it or not it is true.

That's the problem with using a subjective term. You say "close to 30," I hear 29.8. When in reality you mean 26.6 or 27.7, which really is nowhere close to 30 to a rational person.

 

[Frenchy]

That's the problem with using a subjective term. You say "close to 30," I hear 29.8. When in reality you mean 26.6 or 27.7, which really is nowhere close to 30 to a rational person.

27 and 28 are close to 30 if you ask anyone here. Dont like it then shut it and leave it be. I have notice you just wanting to contradict everything I say. It's starting to get annoying to say the least.

 

[D Fresh]

27 and 28 are close to 30 if you ask anyone here. Dont like it then shut it and leave it be. I have notice you just wanting to contradict everything I say. It's starting to get annoying to say the least.

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