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I did not see any noticeable improvement (or decline) in MPG after I installed my Extang Solid Fold 2.0. It is still worth it to me as I now have a place I can store things out of the rain without putting them in the cab.
Same for me. Didnt install it for fuel economy, I installed it so the bed had rain protection.
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Same for me. Didnt install it for fuel economy, I installed it so the bed had rain protection.
One would have to spend lots and lots of highway time at "highway Speeds" to see an increase in gas mileage. Most likely you would see a very slight decrease in city mileage from the extra weight...
 

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A little over 4,000 miles currently. Overall life-time MPG is at 23.5. Best MPG was a week ago on a 135 mile drive from my home to Idaho Falls. Of that distance 6 miles is pot-holed gravel at 30MPH, 3/4 is speed limited to 55 (driven at 58-59) and remainder speed limited to 70 (driven at 72-73) : 28.5MPG. That said, I have no difficulty getting 25-26MPG and that has improved by 2-3 MPG since new.

Things I've noticed:
- Believe the highest speed on the CAFE test is 55MPH so exceeding that will make it difficult to achieve the highway rated.
- EVERYTHING manufactures do these days is to increase MPG since fines are very high for not meeting the required mileage. Adding anything to the wind such as a bug deflector, or wind deflectors on the windows, or side steps will adversely affect your MPG. Same for driving with the window(s) down - every little bit hurts (or helps, depending). Manufactures spend hundreds of wind tunnel hours tweaking the shape for that little bit better mileage. For example, that little "kick out" at the top of the end gate is said to improve mileage 1/2 MPG. A bed cover is reported to improve MPG "a little." but for most folks that won't be measurable. It's all about a smooth air flow over the vehicle.
- Since the wind resistance increases by the square of the speed, any increase in speed really hammers your milage. Nothing scientific, but I've noted once you are over 70-75MPH, mileage drops quite noticeable, 1-3 MPG.
 

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One would have to spend lots and lots of highway time at "highway Speeds" to see an increase in gas mileage. Most likely you would see a very slight decrease in city mileage from the extra weight...
I would assume that its negligible either way and within the margin of error of my foot. But again, I dont really care I got it for bed protection.
 

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Altitude is also a big factor... here in the DFW area we're at something like 500ft above sea level.. when I ride my motorcycle - fuel injected - to Colorado, it's amazing the MPGs I get even though I'm pushing it hard.
 


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Since the wind resistance increases by the square of the speed, any increase in speed really hammers your milage. Nothing scientific, but I've noted once you are over 70-75MPH, mileage drops quite noticeable, 1-3 MPG.
I went to college about 350 miles from where I grew up. On one of my visits back home, I drove (in my '03 Ranger) 70-75 mph against the prevailing wind to go home, but kept it around 60 mph with the prevailing wind on the return trip back to school. My MPGs were about 13% higher on the return trip. It was pretty cool to top 30 mpg in a pickup, but totally not worth the extra hour of drive time!
 

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So to start I don't live in boost or WOT. I drive pretty normally and admittedly take full advantage of the turbo while getting on the highway/passing, etc. I'm at a little over 3k on the odo and have been getting 16mpg pretty consecutively. I put in 89 octane (as opposed to 87) yesterday to see but time will tell, in one day it's about the same if not a little worse...... Ideas?
Dear Bear: I am getting 19+ in mostly city driving of my FX4 2019 Ranger, using Regular (87) gas and with the Auto Stop Start mostly off (unless I forget). I do not tow at all and rarely haul anything of significant weight. I do try to stay within the posted speed limits (or slightly above), and I engage the Cruise Control wherever possible, meaning on less crowded stretches of highway or freeway. I also try to accelerate gradually instead of punching it, never mind what the other drivers do (or think), and look ahead for stop signs or red lights so that I can gradually slow down ahead of time. School starts this week, and that will add a lot of daily drives on the freeway, and so I would expect to break into the twenties as freeway driving takes over most of my miles. The 2014 Explorer Limited that I traded for the Ranger only got 17.8 MPG lifetime, and so I am very pleased with the Ranger's mileage so far and expect it to improve. I hope that you will see improved mileage. If changing your driving habits does not help significantly, take the truck to the dealer and ask for an explanation or adjustment! Regards, Marc
 

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I'm curious why higher octane would affect MPGs... Isn't octane just the anti detonation characteristic of the fuel? From my knowledge it doesn't have anything to do with the BTUs per weight/volume. There is no more power in 93 than in 85. 93 can be compressed more before detonating, that's it.

Has anyone in the higher altitude states used 85? I know the book says don't use anything less than 87, but at 5000+ft, I'd imaging 85 would be fine. Unless the turbo is "normalized" and will boost up to Sea level pressure.
 

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I'm curious why higher octane would affect MPGs... Isn't octane just the anti detonation characteristic of the fuel? From my knowledge it doesn't have anything to do with the BTUs per weight/volume. There is no more power in 93 than in 85. 93 can be compressed more before detonating, that's it.

Has anyone in the higher altitude states used 85? I know the book says don't use anything less than 87, but at 5000+ft, I'd imaging 85 would be fine. Unless the turbo is "normalized" and will boost up to Sea level pressure.
I think the better question is gas mileage using ethanol. Ethanol has less energy and impacts gas mileage. It's hard to determine the actual content at a pump as they usually state "may contain up to X % of ethanol by volume. According to the link below 10% ethanol is 3% less MPG's. Ethanol overall has about 30% less energy by volume than gasoline. It may be different blends by refinery so I find it an interesting question. Does buying gas from certain dealers give you different MPG's? At 3% it would not appear to be so but still a factor.

I've been buying from Costco. ~17MPG's for my first 3-4 tanks. I just bought Shell and it just jumped to ~20MPG's. I don't know if it's the gas, the feather I put on my shoe, the magical 1000+ break in some have alluded to or something else. I do know my MPG's started climbing almost immediately after getting the last tank.

I still need more data points.

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=27&t=10
 

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It all hass all todo with gas u use and self control i just came back from a trip to utah and i did around 1400 miles averaging 30.5 most of the way keep in my mind i was driving 65 the whole way

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Did about 375 miles of all highway to meet up with @RedRanger19 and buy his old wheels. Cruise set to ~75mph for most of the trip, computer showed 25.4mpg, and I got 23.8 hand calculated. A little lower than I was hoping for (especially with the hand calc value) but close to the EPA estimate for highway I guess so thats nice. Muuuch better than the 17.3 I was getting in the city. Also kept my obd bluetooth adapter plugged in so I could get baseline value for everything.

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I'm curious why higher octane would affect MPGs... Isn't octane just the anti detonation characteristic of the fuel? From my knowledge it doesn't have anything to do with the BTUs per weight/volume. There is no more power in 93 than in 85. 93 can be compressed more before detonating, that's it.
Turbocharging makes the engine run hotter and with higher compression, which can lead to premature ignition (pinging). Strategies to avoid that (and potential engine damage) include retarding the timing (which reduces power) or running rich (basically using extra gas to cool the cylinder). A higher octane fuel may be able to delay or avoid those mitigations and get better mpg.

Whether there is a noticable effect depends on how you're driving, and whether there's an economic improvement in mpg depends on the relative prices for different fuel grades.
 

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My truck has 3,000 + miles on it. Went on a 352 mile road trip, flat ground, no hills,etc.. 90% interstate with cruise set at 72 mph. I did get up to 80 for short periods. Computer said 23.8 mpg, actual calculated using 15 gallons of gas came out to 22.7 mpg.
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