Effect of start/stop on turbo?

[Deleted member 1634]

Ya it drives me nuts I try to tap on and off the brake and that sometimes keeps it from doing it. It seems to wait until there is a steady hold but it should wait another second or so. As for not working in the winter does it not work in the cold? I live upstate NY and it gets nasty up here in the winter.

It's almost a little annoying even at quick 4-way stops too, or very slow moving construction traffic. To the point where I'll allow the truck to very slowly creep forward at short stops like that, to keep it from shutting off, and having to turn back on a second later when it's time to move.
Yeah, I would figure the engine would need to stay on to maintain the heat of both the cabin and the engine. Especially when it's regularly below 0 in the morning for months on end here. Most of the vehicles I've driven in the winter take the whole commute to work just to warm up. So I don't anticipate it happening much in the winter.

And it looks like @t4thfavor can confirm:

I'm in the minority of owners who have already driven their ranger through what most would consider "Winter". I picked up on Feb 4th 2019, and I can say the S/S only worked maybe 2-3 times until temps stayed consistently above 40F. I have a long commute, with plenty of stopping, and it stays off most of the time. Not to mention it's disabled when you have the defroster on, and it's basically required if you are a living, breathing human.

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[Indy650]

It's almost a little annoying even at quick 4-way stops too, or very slow moving construction traffic. To the point where I'll allow the truck to very slowly creep forward at short stops like that, to keep it from shutting off, and having to turn back on a second later when it's time to move.
Yeah, I would figure the engine would need to stay on to maintain the heat of both the cabin and the engine. Especially when it's regularly below 0 in the morning for months on end here. Most of the vehicles I've driven in the winter take the whole commute to work just to warm up. So I don't anticipate it happening much in the winter.

And it looks like @t4thfavor can confirm:

hmm interesting. I can also relate to a vehicle taking the entire ride to warm up. Most of my trucks have had block heaters but as I didn't order my ranger I'll have to buy one for it. I hate the thought of my truck's engine idling cold that's where most of engine damage comes from regardless of them saying newer vehicles don't need to warm up.

 

[t4thfavor]

It actually warms up really fast. It takes only about a mile of slow driving for it to start pushing heat in single digit temps. We didn't have any double digit negatives since I picked it up, but I suspect it will warm up fast like my focus ST did (warm in about 1.5-2 miles at -25F several times).

 

[Mark Lally]

why of course they are

Im not positive but I dont think the ranger has the ISG. Pretty sure its just a beefed up starter. I'm not going to say for sure because I could be wrong but as a mechanic it doesn't look like a generator to me but a simple alternator. I am however, positive that s/s wont damage anything prematurely.

No, the Ranger does NOT have a ISG.

 

[Mokume]

Try driving in Honolulu's traffic and you will QUICKLY disable it, just look at the systems acronym..ASS !

 

[svache]

Try driving in Honolulu's traffic and you will QUICKLY disable it, just look at the systems acronym..ASS !

Exactly why I disabled it, it drove me nuts

 

[Mokume]

Exactly why I disabled it, it drove me nuts

Thanks,
Call me old fashioned but such a system has no merit at all to me, it's only meant for automakers to meet CAFE standards and to tout (dubiously) fuel economy.
If I was truly worried about the so-called advantages of it I'd 1) walk, 2) catch the bus, or 3) drive a Prius (yikes)

 

[Deleted member 1634]

hmm interesting. I can also relate to a vehicle taking the entire ride to warm up. Most of my trucks have had block heaters but as I didn't order my ranger I'll have to buy one for it. I hate the thought of my truck's engine idling cold that's where most of engine damage comes from regardless of them saying newer vehicles don't need to warm up.

It actually warms up really fast. It takes only about a mile of slow driving for it to start pushing heat in single digit temps. We didn't have any double digit negatives since I picked it up, but I suspect it will warm up fast like my focus ST did (warm in about 1.5-2 miles at -25F several times).

I had heard that it only takes maybe a couple minutes or a couple miles for the engine to warm up enough (from CarTalk no less, used to love that show). Having a remote start and letting it idle for 15mins in the parking lot before leaving is just wasting gas. I'll probably just remote start mine as I leave the building walking out to it. Just to give the defroster a headstart if nothing else. I guess I was more talking about being warm enough to heat up the cabin effectively. Maybe/hopefully the Ranger is quicker, but my last few vehicles have taken almost the whole 8mile/10min drive to work to get the cabin to start being comfortable. And it doesn't help that I have physical troubles with the cold. Nor does it help when the "Polar Vortex" hits and it's -70 every morning for a week...

 

[t4thfavor]

I had heard that it only takes maybe a couple minutes or a couple miles for the engine to warm up enough (from CarTalk no less, used to love that show). Having a remote start and letting it idle for 15mins in the parking lot before leaving is just wasting gas. I'll probably just remote start mine as I leave the building walking out to it. Just to give the defroster a headstart if nothing else. I guess I was more talking about being warm enough to heat up the cabin effectively. Maybe/hopefully the Ranger is quicker, but my last few vehicles have taken almost the whole 8mile/10min drive to work to get the cabin to start being comfortable. And it doesn't help that I have physical troubles with the cold. Nor does it help when the "Polar Vortex" hits and it's -70 every morning for a week...

They have an electric assist heating element, so they are blowing decently warm air after just a few minutes. The air will feel like a warm Caribbean summer breeze when the outside temps are -25f... That said, the steering wheel will still be -25F for quite a while as it's pretty thick, and not in the direct air flow very much.

 

[Deleted member 1634]

They have an electric assist heating element, so they are blowing decently warm air after just a few minutes. The air will feel like a warm Caribbean summer breeze when the outside temps are -25f... That said, the steering wheel will still be -25F for quite a while as it's pretty thick, and not in the direct air flow very much.

Well at least there's something good there. haha A heated steering wheel would definitely be something I would pay big bucks for. Since my hands are usually the things that take forever to warm up, if they ever even do sometimes.

 

[Traneman]

They have an electric assist heating element, so they are blowing decently warm air after just a few minutes. The air will feel like a warm Caribbean summer breeze when the outside temps are -25f... That said, the steering wheel will still be -25F for quite a while as it's pretty thick, and not in the direct air flow very much.

This is a fact? I searched and didn't see anything on this, "electric assist heating element".

 

[Doc]

Ya it drives me nuts I try to tap on and off the brake and that sometimes keeps it from doing it. It seems to wait until there is a steady hold but it should wait another second or so. As for not working in the winter does it not work in the cold? I live upstate NY and it gets nasty up here in the winter.

Just turn it off..

 

[t4thfavor]

This is a fact? I searched and didn't see anything on this, "electric assist heating element".

Based on another thread on this forum where people were smelling a burnt smell while running dual zone climate, Ford found that the heating element that warms the air for the zone with the higher setting was covered in white lithium grease. When dual was selected, the heating element would heat the grease and produce the smell.

So either the dealer is blowing white lithium flavored smoke up everyone's butt, or there's a heating element in the dash.

This is what I found in parts, so at least some Fords have it
https://parts.lakelandford.com/p/Ford__/HVAC-Heater-Core-Heater-Element/64721105/8V6Z19E616C.html

 

[Traneman]

Based on another thread on this forum where people were smelling a burnt smell while running dual zone climate, Ford found that the heating element that warms the air for the zone with the higher setting was covered in white lithium grease. When dual was selected, the heating element would heat the grease and produce the smell.

So either the dealer is blowing white lithium flavored smoke up everyone's butt, or there's a heating element in the dash.

This is what I found in parts, so at least some Fords have it
https://parts.lakelandford.com/p/Ford__/HVAC-Heater-Core-Heater-Element/64721105/8V6Z19E616C.html

Ahh ok, Guess I won't have it on mine as it's a single zone.

 

[t4thfavor]

No idea, the part still seems to be there in the parts diagram at the bottom of that parts page, so who knows what's in there.

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