Blown transmission 2019…

[Msfitoy]

Thanks. i didn’t know about the EGR valve issue.

Yes...people are conflating the symptoms...failing EGR valve causes the bucking/surging issues at low speed and poor throttle response...transmission issues are related to harsh shifting, slamming up or down gears, slipping, long delays between shifts, etc...

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[got3fords]

Right

To each their own, but after your Ranger is paid off, I would take that car payment amount and start banking it. Use that money for repairs on your Ranger and the next car.

I had mine paid off in a little over a year, so yeah, enjoying the rising savings rates (due to a poorly managed economy, while people pay more on loans, you also make more on savings). So I am thinking rolling the dice on no extended warranty as a failure would not hurt me at all.
Also, still no answer, are people with performance tunes experiencing the same or similar so-called 94k failure? I mean, all these tranny failures, are they stock tune and does that matter? It sure seems to shift so much better with a tune.

 

[ppfd]

Just an update. Just left the dealer. They think that since I was up to date on my services (majors all done by ford) that I may qualify for up to 3k of the cost but they want to do full diagnostics before they say. Fingers crossed.
Appreciate all the support. Luckily my dad was in Reno and able to tow me home with his Tahoe (which I call a mini van) and a U-Haul. I’m never going to hear the end of this ?‍

That's why I let a ford dealer do all my service including oil changes. If it shits the bed, they have been the ones working on it.
Sure I could do oil changes, I live in an apt., have to go to my storage unit, get everything, then drive to a parts shop and dump the used oil.
My time and the hassle are worth $50.00-60.00.

 

[Nautiquer]

Yes...people are conflating the symptoms...failing EGR valve causes the bucking/surging issues at low speed and poor throttle response...transmission issues are related to harsh shifting, slamming up or down gears, slipping, long delays between shifts, etc...

Just ordered the part (LB5Z-9J433-B) from Varsity Ford. Under $90 with shipping and tax. Should have it in a week.
Thanks again for the heads up on the EGR valve.

 

[NotBudule]

I mean, all these tranny failures, are they stock tune and does that matter? It sure seems to shift so much better with a tune.

Mine is damn near perfect in sport mode , is that a "tune" ? Maybe mine would straighten out in D with a proper tune ...

 

[Wytchdctr]

Right

I had mine paid off in a little over a year, so yeah, enjoying the rising savings rates (due to a poorly managed economy, while people pay more on loans, you also make more on savings). So I am thinking rolling the dice on no extended warranty as a failure would not hurt me at all.
Also, still no answer, are people with performance tunes experiencing the same or similar so-called 94k failure? I mean, all these tranny failures, are they stock tune and does that matter? It sure seems to shift so much better with a tune.

I'll let you know... but it is gonna take me a bit to get there.

 

[AzScorpion]

Right

I had mine paid off in a little over a year, so yeah, enjoying the rising savings rates (due to a poorly managed economy, while people pay more on loans, you also make more on savings). So I am thinking rolling the dice on no extended warranty as a failure would not hurt me at all.
Also, still no answer, are people with performance tunes experiencing the same or similar so-called 94k failure? I mean, all these tranny failures, are they stock tune and does that matter? It sure seems to shift so much better with a tune.

The only one I recall having an issue was @NOVA_Ranger. He was running a Livernois tune but doesn't think that had anything to do with his problem. Also they covered it under warranty even though it was tuned!

More here.

https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/threads/transmission-slipping-and-rough-shifts.23393/

 

[got3fords]

The only one I recall having an issue was @NOVA_Ranger. He was running a Livernois tune but doesn't think that had anything to do with his problem. Also they covered it under warranty even though it was tuned!

More here.

https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/threads/transmission-slipping-and-rough-shifts.23393/

Only one? so that leads more to my point. Performance tunes may prevent some failures? I know, there are other factors in play, faulty parts, bad design etc, etc.

 

[Jacob]

Well since it’s a ticking time bomb. Note to those out there, I am at 95,300 miles on my transmission. Even with the problems starting up, it is technically still going.
So yes some of us can make it to the holy grail of 100k on the stock tranny

 

[9zero1790]

Just an update. Just left the dealer. They think that since I was up to date on my services (majors all done by ford) that I may qualify for up to 3k of the cost but they want to do full diagnostics before they say. Fingers crossed.
Appreciate all the support. Luckily my dad was in Reno and able to tow me home with his Tahoe (which I call a mini van) and a U-Haul. I’m never going to hear the end of this ?‍

well 3k is better than nothing but still stinks.

 

[Swishpapasweets]

72k here. Waiting for the bomb to go off

Lol well if it does them 2.7 swap here we go

 

[NOVA_Ranger]

The only one I recall having an issue was @NOVA_Ranger. He was running a Livernois tune but doesn't think that had anything to do with his problem. Also they covered it under warranty even though it was tuned!

More here.

https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/threads/transmission-slipping-and-rough-shifts.23393/

The problem with my transmission was totally mechanical in nature (CDF drum failure), and a fairly common issue with this transmission (according to the tech). I'm fairly confident that the LMS tune had no impact, one way or the other, in my case. Everything seems to be working fine after the last dealership visit.

I wouldn't hesitate to put the LMS tune back on the truck, but I opted to transfer it over to the 'commuter car' I bought. The little Fiesta ST is a blast to drive with the tune and it still gets 30MPG+ combined, even with a decent amount of spirited driving.

Details on the issue I had:
Shift Pointers: Getting the 10R80 shaft - Transmission Digest

 

[Jason B]

This sounds familiar like there is a solution being kept undercover among the dealership service departments. You'd be paying labor and Ford supplying the parts.

As far as our Rangers equipped with the early 10R80 against other Fords/Lincoln's that are more common it's a frequently discussed problem - maybe not in relation to numbers produced to failures reported but enough to dominate forums. All but a portion of the last 5G's likely have the pre-redisgned CDF with the 'walking' seals.

Among transmission shop newsletters and videos the primary component(s) that seem to be the primary point of failure exist in the majority of 5G Rangers so I think it's going to be a suspicion that dogs our particular trucks until they are repaired/rebuilt/replaced.

The question I keep asking. What's different about the trans in the Ranger and all the other Ford models that use the same trans? It's it the programming that's causing the defect to show up more in Rangers versus all the other millions out there?

The crap thing about this one is... it is based on a design flaw and not because those who lost a trans didn't keep up on maintenance or drove like idiots. Seems like a roll of the dice if that drum or valve body gives you the finger and causes problems.

GM at least admitted their design sucked and believe they have it right with the new 8L80 in the Colorado this year and Silverado in 24. Going up to 100k on the warranty.

I heard about and or saw a new part number for the 10R80 that could help that is quietly going in 2024 models (?). Just a major PITA to install ahead of time and that will never become a recall.

I looked at trading away from the known issue while have some equity in the Ranger... but it seems everything resonably sized with a bed has some sort of transmission issue lurking. Even the mighty Toyota has haters on their 6 speed for gear hunting. Also the Santa Cruz and that is the least truck like thing out there..... has transmission issues.

I really wish this thing would have had a manual option.... but then it would have probably had a dual mass flywheel that is expensive and breaks alot......... I thought about a Yota with a stick but I feel weird sitting in them driving an automatic.... that would be super awesome with a clutch.

Latest scuttle is that the 6G Rangers will get a different trans. It's the 10R60 that is a lighter weight than the 10R80. In fact, the US Ranger was supposed to get the new 10R60, but the design and production weren't ready. That doesn't bode well for 6G Rangers. I think Bronco has the 10R60. Time will tell what creeps up on that trans over the next few years.

 

[Racket]

The problem with my transmission was totally mechanical in nature (CDF drum failure), and a fairly common issue with this transmission (according to the tech). I'm fairly confident that the LMS tune had no impact, one way or the other, in my case. Everything seems to be working fine after the last dealership visit.

Details on the issue I had:
Shift Pointers: Getting the 10R80 shaft - Transmission Digest

The Transmission Digest link is interesting in that it details the failure of an integrated component. It suggests that a competent transmission builder would check for the cap being in place or replace the whole shaft (not just the CDF) after an outright failure.

I still feel the 10R80 has great potential - mostly for all-important gas mileage and while our trucks won't stress the power handling regardless of engine mods the fact it's a mid size truck demands reliability for many miles.

I think there is some suggestion that those using Sport Mode are seeing less failure or at least postponed failure, but I can't figure how to quantify that or justify it. Modified valve bodies may be a solution too with 'updated' Ford software.

The 10R60 has a few discussions on failures and rebuilds itself so I don't see a reason to go to it except for larger/heavier wheels. At least that's my impression from the 4x4 offroad crowd.

 

[Crow_of_judgement]

Lol well if it does them 2.7 swap here we go

If it goes or starts acting up I'll probably just trade it in on a ranger raptor. I'm half tempted to now since its paid off and my trade in offer is a bit more than I paid for it

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