After market Oil Filter's and such...FYI

[P. A. Schilke]

I recall Purolator used to make many Motorcraft filters.

Hi Tom,

Over the years, there are several manufacturers that have made filters for Ford Motorcraft brand. The key here is that the filter must meed Ford specifications. The same filter from the manufacturer under their brand may not meet the same specs. That is why I will always install filters that are Motorcraft.

best,
Phil Schilke
Ranger Vehicle Engineering
Ford Motor Co. Retired

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[fusseli]

I don't know why but these are always my favorite threads! When I had my jeep that I traded for the Ranger, it was a new format/part# cartridge oil filter new to that model year. I enjoyed buying a sample of each oil filter that came out and comparing them for all the Jeep forums to see. The OE Mopar filter changed in subsequent part number revisions which was fun to see too.

In my Ranger I am sticking 910S for now but running MC 5w30 full synthetic as opposed to basic syn blend. If it doesn't hold up in the next ~9k mile OLM run out I will switch to one of the extended oils and do the same.

In some applications the Fram Ultra is the oil filter of choice. If that becomes proven by tear downs I would switch over the 910S. Otherwise I'm of the belief that MC is the best absolute quality and you pay half the "premium" aftermarket's cost.

 

[jblc]

Hi Tom,

Over the years, there are several manufacturers that have made filters for Ford Motorcraft brand. The key here is that the filter must meed Ford specifications. The same filter from the manufacturer under their brand may not meet the same specs. That is why I will always install filters that are Motorcraft.

best,
Phil Schilke
Ranger Vehicle Engineering
Ford Motor Co. Retired

Hi Phil (or anyone else),
Do you know how to tell if aftermarket filters meet the Ford specs?

I ask, since I'm about to change to amsoil XL and their corresponding (non-Wix) filter.
I've used Amsoil or Mobil 1 full synthetic on my previous vehicles, although I change at regular intervals. (I understand that many say "normal" synthetic is fine )

Amsoil, in any case, says that normal filters (eg EOM Motorcraft) won't work as well for their oil.
I don't know how to tell if that just refers to normal filters not meeting lifespan (longer change intervals), and whether it meets Ford specs.

 

[Frenchy]

Hi Phil (or anyone else),
Do you know how to tell if aftermarket filters meet the Ford specs?

I ask, since I'm about to change to amsoil XL and their corresponding (non-Wix) filter.
I've used Amsoil or Mobil 1 full synthetic on my previous vehicles, although I change at regular intervals. (I understand that many say "normal" synthetic is fine )

Amsoil, in any case, says that normal filters (eg EOM Motorcraft) won't work as well for their oil.
I don't know how to tell if that just refers to normal filters not meeting lifespan (longer change intervals), and whether it meets Ford specs.

I'm going to tell you right now that Amsoil oil is basically scam oil for the fact that you are paying way too much for their oil when you can get oil anywhere else including the factory motorcraft oil just about anywhere at a much lower price and is regularly available. I would rather use Mobil 1 over Amsoil just for the fact that high-end manufacturers like Mercedes and BMW in a few other European Exotics recommending mobile one for their vehicles because it meets their specifications. For Mobil 1 oil you can get it for roughly about $10 a court individually vs Amsoil you're paying what more than $20 a quart? It's not worth it at all.

S4 aftermarket filters most are considered okay but do be aware if you have a Fram oil filter on your truck and the engine all of a sudden has a catastrophic failure where it locks up or goes Kaboom or anyting Ford does have a bulletin specifying that if a Fram oil filter is on the engine it will not be covered under warranty whatsoever. Why do they do this? Simply because it has been proven that the basic Fram filter is known to tear apart and let the little cardboard particles go into the engine and clogged up oil passages.

 

[jblc]

'm going to tell you right now that Amsoil oil is basically scam oil for the fact that you are paying way too much for their oil when you can get oil anywhere else including the factory motorcraft oil just about anywhere at a much lower price and is regularly available. I would rather use Mobil 1 over Amsoil

Yes, agreed that Mobil 1 is also good (as mentioned I've used that in the past as well)

Here's a commonly-passed-around, non-scientific (qualitative) video from Project Farm on synthetic oils. Mobil 1 fell out earlier in the race, so the last two are Amsoil and Royal Purple.

Obviously, these are not the same conditions as engines , but it's interesting nonetheless to see some high-level qualities.

 

[P. A. Schilke]

Hi Phil (or anyone else),
Do you know how to tell if aftermarket filters meet the Ford specs?

I ask, since I'm about to change to amsoil XL and their corresponding (non-Wix) filter.
I've used Amsoil or Mobil 1 full synthetic on my previous vehicles, although I change at regular intervals. (I understand that many say "normal" synthetic is fine )

Amsoil, in any case, says that normal filters (eg EOM Motorcraft) won't work as well for their oil.
I don't know how to tell if that just refers to normal filters not meeting lifespan (longer change intervals), and whether it meets Ford specs.

Hi JB,

I good question and I really do not have an answer on how to check. I just solve this by purchasing a Motorcraft filter and be done with it.... I also agree with Chris....avoid Fram. The days of "Pay me now or pay me later" are gone.

Best,
Phil Schilke
Ranger Vehicle Engineering
Ford Motor Co. Retired

 

[Trigganometry]

Everyone has an opinion on this depending who you ask. Me, I look at the specifications of the filter. How fine a particulate do they catch. In microns. What’s are the flow rates, materials used and construction. So, with that said I got 3 that I will use without a second guess. Motorcraft, Mobile 1 and Wix. Always go for the extreme duty types. This last change used a WIX XP filter. So in reality it’s a 2 part decision. Oil quality (full synthetic) and quality filter for particulate size along with the amount of media used in making the filter.

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