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For those of you who haven't seen one. I've torn apart the filter from my recent change and had a good look at it.

Ford really put some effort into making sure that crud stays out of the inner workings of the 10R80, it baffles me why they recommend a 150k regular service interval for it. Historically, most AT filters are little more than 'rock catchers', but not so these days.

As to the 'why', I feel that it is always a good idea to have a look inside your filters, I do the same with my oil filters. If you start finding chunks, then you should start thinking about why those chunks are there and if there's anything you need to do. For me, I had a tiny bit of sheen in the bottom of my pan, what I would consider a 'normal' amount of crud on the magnets, and a few tiny flakes in the fluid, which looked like they were just leftovers from production. So nothing of any real note.

With the bottom off, you can see the two different materials the filter is comprised of. The smaller section is a more coarse media to provide enough flow when the fluid is cold. Earlier versions of the filter had a flap that directed the fluid to the two different sections but it has been done away with. Also of note, is another magnet in the filter in addition to the one already in the pan.

As an addendum. There are now two separate filters listed for the 10R80. An FT202 and FT215. I have no earthly clue what the difference is. The FT202 claims it 'includes seal', which is good I reckon. It's a $3 part at the dealer.

I would guess that eventually one of them will go away, but it's just Ford doing Ford things for now and confusing everyone.

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Closer look at the finer section.


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Close-up view of the magnet from the filter. With a spot wiped clean. This is 40K worth of buildup.

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This is the 'clean' side of the filter.

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Cut out some of the filter media. It is not a paper as you would expect but rather a pretty nice gauze-type material.

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I changed mine at 70k. It was pretty dirty, but I do tow with it a lot. I plan doing it at every 30k now.
Yea, I'd planned on doing mine (filter) at 60k, but the PPE pan got here and I figured I'd just go ahead and knock it out at 40. Probably go every 50k on the filter and continue on with my 10K D&F's on the fluid since I have a nice drain plug now.
 

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For those of you who haven't seen one. I've torn apart the filter from my recent change and had a good look at it.

Ford really put some effort into making sure that crud stays out of the inner workings of the 10R80, it baffles me why they recommend a 150k regular service interval for it. Historically, most AT filters are little more than 'rock catchers', but not so these days.

As to the 'why', I feel that it is always a good idea to have a look inside your filters, I do the same with my oil filters. If you start finding chunks, then you should start thinking about why those chunks are there and if there's anything you need to do. For me, I had a tiny bit of sheen in the bottom of my pan, what I would consider a 'normal' amount of crud on the magnets, and a few tiny flakes in the fluid, which looked like they were just leftovers from production. So nothing of any real note.

With the bottom off, you can see the two different materials the filter is comprised of. The smaller section is a more coarse media to provide enough flow when the fluid is cold. Earlier versions of the filter had a flap that directed the fluid to the two different sections but it has been done away with. Also of note, is another magnet in the filter in addition to the one already in the pan.

As an addendum. There are now two separate filters listed for the 10R80. An FT202 and FT215. I have no earthly clue what the difference is. The FT202 claims it 'includes seal', which is good I reckon. It's a $3 part at the dealer.

I would guess that eventually one of them will go away, but it's just Ford doing Ford things for now and confusing everyone.

1687224844162.png



IMG_20230616_182955670.jpg


Closer look at the finer section.


IMG_20230616_182957891.jpg


Close-up view of the magnet from the filter. With a spot wiped clean. This is 40K worth of buildup.

IMG_20230616_183027559_HDR.jpg


This is the 'clean' side of the filter.

IMG_20230616_183614512.jpg


Cut out some of the filter media. It is not a paper as you would expect but rather a pretty nice gauze-type material.

IMG_20230616_183607211_HDR.jpg
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How are you figuring how much tranny fluid to replace with after you drop the pan, are you just measuring what you drained?
Yes and no. Before I did the PPE pan I would just replace the same amount as what I sucked out. The 'shallow' PPE pan holds 1/2-3/4 of a quart more than the stock pan, the 'deep' pan holds even more so you've got to kind of guess to get close.

Then, I just use the cold check method that FordTechMakuloco subscribes to. In a nutshell.

Add what you think you need to the trans, by measuring and refilling, or some other method that gets you close.

Start and run through Reverse/Drive/Reverse/Park. (This is with the trans being cold)

Measure the fluid with the dipstick. You're shooting to be at the very bottom of where Ford recommends. For us I think that is between 4 and 5, so shoot to be just touching 5.

When the fluid warms up, it will be between those marks.

Now that I have a drain plug, I'll just replace what I drain and call it good, going forward.
 

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FWIW, my 2001 Dakota with the 545RFE automatic had two filters. Both are under the pan, a conventional looking pancake filter and a small spin on canister filter.
 

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Thanks for the write up.

Ford really put some effort into making sure that crud stays out of the inner workings of the 10R80, it baffles me why they recommend a 150k regular service interval for it. Historically, most AT filters are little more than 'rock catchers', but not so these days.
I think the first part of that statement answers the second part. Even though it's a well design filter, there will still be microscopic particles that get through. So, I think I will follow the advice of fellow Ranger owners and do a change of filter and fluid at 50k. IMO, 10k D&F is a little aggressive for my driving habits.
 

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very interesting thank you for showing us! im worried to change mine. im sure the magnet looks like this
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very interesting thank you for showing us! im worried to change mine. im sure the magnet looks like this
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That's probably what it would look like at 150K.
 

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Yea, I'd planned on doing mine (filter) at 60k, but the PPE pan got here and I figured I'd just go ahead and knock it out at 40. Probably go every 50k on the filter and continue on with my 10K D&F's on the fluid since I have a nice drain plug now.
do you have a link of what pan you purchased? I should probably get this done sooner than later. Also, do you have pictures of the drain plug and the pan installed Thank you.
 
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do you have a link of what pan you purchased? I should probably get this done sooner than later. Also, do you have pictures of the drain plug and the pan installed Thank you.
I do, but I'm right in the middle of migrating to a new desktop here at home. I can point you to some pics I posted on another forum:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/ppe-aluminum-pan-for-my-2020-ranger.370158/

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08WHWQPZZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That's the pan I used. Just the standard shallow one that holds about an additional 1/2-3/4 quart. They also have a deep one that adds some additional capacity over that, but I didn't feel that necessary.
 

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Thank you very much.
I’m nervous about getting the fluid lever correct. do you think ford would check it once I install and get the level close? I know with my Subaru transmission the fluid level is very sensitive for transmission operation.
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