Improved transmission pan - does this affect my Ford Protect PremiumCARE Basic Care extended service plan?

[BaronVonRanger]

The 10R80 transmission is vented and not a closed system.

Thanks for the info I was hestitant to install the Fritz stick I have so again thanks for the information. Much appreciated

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[TJC]

Thanks for the info I was hestitant to install the Fritz stick I have so again thanks for the information. Much appreciated

It is a great addition. Very much needed.

 

[BaronVonRanger]

 

[woodworker]

It's been posted that any aftermarket pan voids the warranty. However nobody has ever posted any documentation to verify it.

Wouldn’t surprise me, that as bad as taking an “OFF ROAD” truck off road and having your warranty voided.

 

[woodworker]

I went thru this scenario with my dealer, and basically it depends on how the repair is written up.
Basically, they can state that it being an extended pan, how much xtra fluid did you add, did it bring it up to normal operating level, how do you know it isn't over-filled or under-filled, ect.
There are a number of factors a dealer/Ford can use to deny warranty work when dealing with an aftermarket part that adds or deletes critical fluids.
My dealer basically said Ford would not authorize warranty work when an oversized pan with xtra fluid was present, so I kept stock as I had extended warranty.

Just like my K&N cold air intake voided my warranty on my Grand Cherokee 5.7 hemi at 17,000 miles.

 

[Danzona]

AND NOW...ANOTHER UPDATE!

So y'all will remember my Jan. 20 post singing the praises of the San Tan Ford service center, and the great results I had there. I still feel the same as I did before about this service center, maybe even better; but I DID have to return again recently for additional transmission service, and here is how it went.

After around 500-750 miles post-repair, I started noticing the "binding" or "hesitation" between 3-4 happening again when upshifting under normal conditions. Since they had replaced the valve body previously, and noted some damage to that unit when it was replaced, I figured this was probably due to some other problem in the transmission unit.

After viewing a couple of YouTube videos about the history of the 10R80 and learning that Ford had redesigned this transmission in 2024, I called up San Tan Ford and let them know the problem had returned. They set me up to drop my truck off on Feb. 17.

One of the videos I watched is this one:



This other video is from a guy who had the same "hesitation" problem I had, in case you're interested - the issue shows up at about 0:50 in the video:

So...about 3 days after I dropped off the truck, I texted my service advisor for an update, and he said:

"We're replacing the transmission as an assembly - new unit came in yesterday, we'll be putting it in Monday."

I was very happy to hear that - and told him so - and he explained that based on the previous repairs, Ford authorized a full replacement.

When I picked it up today, my advisor explained that the transmission case was still the original one - but that the internal transmission assembly was 100% new build, meaning it consists of the post-2024 redesigned parts (I specifically asked if this was all brand new post-redesign parts and he said yes). In addition, I read over the technician's brief on my receipt packet, and yep - when he pulled the transmission and bench-mounted it for inspection, he discovered that the 7b177 cylinder (the CDF clutch drum cylinder) had been grooved by the F clutch, plus debris from the cylinder had scored multiple components including the torque converter front support input shaft.

That situation caused Ford to authorize the elevated service solution with the full internal component assembly replacement. It comes with a 3-year warranty with unlimited mileage as well. AND...they also swapped over my Fitzstick AND my extra-capacity Mishimoto pan for no additional charge.

I had a Bronco Sport for the last 10 days while they worked on my Ranger, which is a fun little truck to drive, so I was basically inconvenienced very little throughout this entire process.

This Ford Protect warranty was the best thing I ever did, and if this transmission problem is truly solved, then I expect to get a LOT of additional mileage out of this vehicle.

I'm really happy with this outcome! Driving home, no indication of flutter, hesitation, or any other worries - as of now, I am going to keep an eagle eye on the truck's shifting performance and will be checking the transmission fluid level later on after some errands, just to be absolutely sure they got the levels right, but given the history with this dealer I don't expect any issues there either.

Figured it was worth sharing this out since my situation is similar to so many other people's with this transmission issue.

 

[The Last Ranger]

FYI; With my Fitzstick installed, My Ford dealer had no problem installing a standard capacity PPE aluminum pan and filled with fluids I purchased from them. They never mentioned any warranty issues with doing so.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

AND NOW...ANOTHER UPDATE!

So y'all will remember my Jan. 20 post singing the praises of the San Tan Ford service center, and the great results I had there. I still feel the same as I did before about this service center, maybe even better; but I DID have to return again recently for additional transmission service, and here is how it went.

After around 500-750 miles post-repair, I started noticing the "binding" or "hesitation" between 3-4 happening again when upshifting under normal conditions. Since they had replaced the valve body previously, and noted some damage to that unit when it was replaced, I figured this was probably due to some other problem in the transmission unit.

After viewing a couple of YouTube videos about the history of the 10R80 and learning that Ford had redesigned this transmission in 2024, I called up San Tan Ford and let them know the problem had returned. They set me up to drop my truck off on Feb. 17.

One of the videos I watched is this one:



This other video is from a guy who had the same "hesitation" problem I had, in case you're interested - the issue shows up at about 0:50 in the video:

So...about 3 days after I dropped off the truck, I texted my service advisor for an update, and he said:

"We're replacing the transmission as an assembly - new unit came in yesterday, we'll be putting it in Monday."

I was very happy to hear that - and told him so - and he explained that based on the previous repairs, Ford authorized a full replacement.

When I picked it up today, my advisor explained that the transmission case was still the original one - but that the internal transmission assembly was 100% new build, meaning it consists of the post-2024 redesigned parts (I specifically asked if this was all brand new post-redesign parts and he said yes). In addition, I read over the technician's brief on my receipt packet, and yep - when he pulled the transmission and bench-mounted it for inspection, he discovered that the 7b177 cylinder (the CDF clutch drum cylinder) had been grooved by the F clutch, plus debris from the cylinder had scored multiple components including the torque converter front support input shaft.

That situation caused Ford to authorize the elevated service solution with the full internal component assembly replacement. It comes with a 3-year warranty with unlimited mileage as well. AND...they also swapped over my Fitzstick AND my extra-capacity Mishimoto pan for no additional charge.

I had a Bronco Sport for the last 10 days while they worked on my Ranger, which is a fun little truck to drive, so I was basically inconvenienced very little throughout this entire process.

This Ford Protect warranty was the best thing I ever did, and if this transmission problem is truly solved, then I expect to get a LOT of additional mileage out of this vehicle.

I'm really happy with this outcome! Driving home, no indication of flutter, hesitation, or any other worries - as of now, I am going to keep an eagle eye on the truck's shifting performance and will be checking the transmission fluid level later on after some errands, just to be absolutely sure they got the levels right, but given the history with this dealer I don't expect any issues there either.

Figured it was worth sharing this out since my situation is similar to so many other people's with this transmission issue.

Glad they took care of you. The 7B177 is actually the outer shell or “trash can” which has been updated to an anodized version. That also should always be replaced when the CDF drum is replaced. Have read many accounts here where that comes back to bite a CDF drum repair. Even on 22 and later units that had the updated CDF drum in their original transmission.

 

[Danzona]

Glad they took care of you. The 7B177 is actually the outer shell or “trash can” which has been updated to an anodized version. That also should always be replaced when the CDF drum is replaced. Have read many accounts here where that comes back to bite a CDF drum repair. Even on 22 and later units that had the updated CDF drum in their original transmission.

Good point Steve - what I wrote earlier was confusing, the damage was definitely to the 7b177 "trash can" cylinder as you noted and I was told the entire internal assembly was replaced.

Fingers crossed for a long, happy experience going forward!

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