Wait until we go full EV

[rydfree]

"Sorry but we must ask you not to charge your vehicle this weekend due to high demand."

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[dtech]

Perhaps TVA should consult with the lone star state or at least the gov - who found an easy scapegoat in wind and solar when their power grid failed a few yrs back.
Time for TVA to get with the program and get rid of those grid destroying renewable energy sources, just like I'm sure Texas has done and thus far I've not heard any reports of grid issues, bless their big Texas hearts.

 

[Grumpaw]

But if you have one of the Lightnings, don't you have to fully charge it so you can power your home when the power goes kaput ???

 

[rydfree]

But if you have one of the Lightnings, don't you have to fully charge it so you can power your home when the power goes kaput ???

LOL , yes . You can drive to get groceries or to work or power your house . Can't do both .

 

[Wes Siler]

EVs are not your enemy. As above, you'll be able to pull emergency home power off one, which is really neat. And some solar can make you totally energy independent. I plan to do this (EV + home battery storage + solar) using tax breaks next year. Should make round town driving essentially free with ~ 5 years and give us robust emergency backup for both house and transportation. All with a car that will have less than half the cradle to grave emissions of an equivalent ICE vehicle, and which will be substantially faster and better to drive.

 

[Motorpsychology]

Perhaps TVA should consult with the lone star state or at least the gov - who found an easy scapegoat in wind and solar when their power grid failed a few yrs back.
Time for TVA to get with the program and get rid of those grid destroying renewable energy sources, just like I'm sure Texas has done and thus far I've not heard any reports of grid issues, bless their big Texas hearts.

Weird.
Xcel Energy is pushing EV's hard with an EV Buyer's guide, different rate programs, to goals of being carbon neutral by 2030 and carbon free by 2050.
Just under half of all the electricity they generate comes from renewable resources including solar, wind hydro, nuclear.

Electricity can't be stored efficiently at a grid or even residential scale. It has to be planned for and built to supply at peak demand. So solar doesn't work at night and wind doesn't work on a calm day, and there's only so many places you can build a dam. France generates 80% of their power with nuclear, and I think we should be taking another look at that for sustainable energy production. Use the other renewables when possible to prolong the life of a nuke plant.

 

[yamahaSHO]

EVs are not your enemy. As above, you'll be able to pull emergency home power off one, which is really neat. And some solar can make you totally energy independent. I plan to do this (EV + home battery storage + solar) using tax breaks next year. Should make round town driving essentially free with ~ 5 years and give us robust emergency backup for both house and transportation. All with a car that will have less than half the cradle to grave emissions of an equivalent ICE vehicle, and which will be substantially faster and better to drive.

I would not want to pull power off of my vehicle.

And maybe substantially faster to some. Some of us have higher standards of power for our other vehicles.

It all sounds great, but there will be a cost regardless and there are still a lot of places that it will not fit for everyone. The forcing of it via mandates is about equivalent to the COVID BS... Let it happen when people choose the better product.

 

[Grumpaw]

If the power goes out in North Alabama, maybe they could plug a Lightning into the system to power it back up !!!!

 

[Wes Siler]

I would not want to pull power off of my vehicle.

And maybe substantially faster to some. Some of us have higher standards of power for our other vehicles.

It all sounds great, but there will be a cost regardless and there are still a lot of places that it will not fit for everyone. The forcing of it via mandates is about equivalent to the COVID BS... Let it happen when people choose the better product.

No one's being forced. You and I currently subsidize oil and gas companies to the tune of $20 billion/year.

"Standards of power"? A $50k Kia EV will now out accelerate a $500k Lamborghini. The world has changed. EVs aren't suitable for every person or every job, yet, but for the vast, vast majority of boring everyday people, they're quickly becoming the cheaper/faster/more practical choice.

 

[yamahaSHO]

No one's being forced. You and I currently subsidize oil and gas companies to the tune of $20 billion/year.

"Standards of power"? A $50k Kia EV will now out accelerate a $500k Lamborghini. The world has changed. EVs aren't suitable for every person or every job, yet, but for the vast, vast majority of boring everyday people, they're quickly becoming the cheaper/faster/more practical choice.

You will eventually be forced via mandates, already in place. I looked at getting an EV as a town car when I lived in Denver... Nothing about it was cheaper than I already have.

I'm a car guy... A stock Lamborghini isn't fast. lulz...

One of my good friends is a factory test driver for Tesla... Still not convinced.

 

[Jason B]

"Sorry but we must ask you not to charge your vehicle this weekend due to high demand."

California said the same during the heat of summer,
" The same week Governor Newsom announced new gas powered car sales will cease in a decade, he also reminded us due to a heat wave not to plug your current electric car in. Yeah folks, we are banning new gas powered cars, in favor of more enviro-friendly electric ones, but please do not charge it while we grapple with an energy crisis."

And I think Switzerland had the same demands this winter:
Switzerland Plans to Restrict the Use of Electric Cars During the Winter Energy Crisis

Weird.
Xcel Energy is pushing EV's hard with an EV Buyer's guide, different rate programs, to goals of being carbon neutral by 2030 and carbon free by 2050.
Just under half of all the electricity they generate comes from renewable resources including solar, wind hydro, nuclear.

Let me get this straight; Xcel Energy, an electricity generator/provider/seller is pushing EV's hard? No conflicts there.

 

[AdamHarris]

A good friend of mine is a TVA engineer. TVA had 2 plants shut down last night due to systems freezing up amounting to 3500 mega watts lost!

 

[outdoorphotog]

Oh man… maybe when electric cars are less then $160,000 and CA doesn’t have the highest electric rates in the country I’ll consider buying one

 

[Texasota]

This transition is going to take a long time. A PHEV is a great solution during this transition that capitalizes on the strengths of ICE and EV. I'm eager to get my hands on the Escape PHEV I ordered last November and a Ranger PHEV a few years from now.

I believe Ford is going to offer us some very compelling solutions. The technology that is coming will be amazing.

 

[MountainGoat]

EVs are not your enemy. As above, you'll be able to pull emergency home power off one, which is really neat. And some solar can make you totally energy independent. I plan to do this (EV + home battery storage + solar) using tax breaks next year. Should make round town driving essentially free with ~ 5 years and give us robust emergency backup for both house and transportation. All with a car that will have less than half the cradle to grave emissions of an equivalent ICE vehicle, and which will be substantially faster and better to drive.

Everyone who makes this argument forgets about the plebs that can't afford it or live in apartments and HOAs by choice or necessity. Of course if you turn your house into your own personal solar farm it makes sense to have an EV. What percentage of people actually do this? The push is not "guy who will never need to relocate for work and can afford a complete solar package and EV" to go electric, it's every person. And the kind of person that will buy into the hype isn't smart enough to see it's not going to work out for them.

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