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Tire wear is pollution.
 

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What garbage article.

"Ev's will be the future of transportation", immature moron, how about EV's will play a significant interim role in the future of transportation?

"The most obvious example is range anxiety, which is steadily improving". Yeah, because people have modified their expectations of what their car/soon truck provides them...

"Many scientists and engineers are trying to make lighter batteries that will still get a lot of range." Many scientists.. Well, that will solve it for sure. Good luck with that next battery breakthrough.

"overall, EVs are still better than regular gas-powered cars." That is the kind of hard hitting evidence I need to finally put me over the top on getting my first EV.

The journalism business will never change. I can see the Motorbiscuit salesmen sitting in front of the marketing director at Hankook, "we are about to publish an article about EV specific tires and we have a special on the 12 time rate.."

Sorry, my Prednisone is showing.
 

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I can see garages in the future refusing to put standard tires on an EV to upsell to 'EV specific' tires.
Just how many won't put tire sizes other than what is specified on the door. My '99 called for 265/75-15 (30.6"). The garage wouldn't put 31x10.5x15 because it wasn't written on the door.
 


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Ok my EV donation for the day! It’s also 500,000 gallons of water to make those 2 batteries
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Yep, my FIL, who holds a PhD in polymer chemistry and is about as far left as a person can be, totally supports these facts.

A long time ago he took it on himself to do a lifecycle study of the relative carbon footprint of a Tesla model S versus our Suburban. No competition.

You definitely don't want to get a highly educated progressive who knows the facts about EV carbon footprints started at the dinner table...

BUT, the torque is pretty intoxicating... :)
 

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Ok my EV donation for the day! It’s also 500,000 gallons of water to make those 2 batteries
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Meh, but not the whole truth.
I don't know what color should be used for petroleum energy, I guess green is already taken. And calling so called green energy a lie, is just simple extremism, and doesn't add anything to the solution, IMO.

You left out solar, wind and nuclear, electric generation, and the energy needed to drill, transport, refine and distribute petroleum fuels, The whole idea behind electric and H2 transportation is to reduce the carbon emissions caused by processing and using petroleum.

Besides the energy needed to get the oil out of the ground and into your tank, we consume 134.83 billion gallons of gasoline in a year. Every year. In spite of all the emission controls on vehicles burning gasoline only, results in 1.018 billion metric tons (1,122.153 US tons) of carbon dioxide (CO2) being put into the atmosphere. That doesn't include diesel vehicles of all types: personal, commercial, rail, construction equipment, ships or aircraft, including the diesel trucks and trains that are transporting the crude and finished product.

My electric utility, Xcel Energy, plans to reduce carbon emissions by 80% by 2030, and be 100% carbon free by 2050, all the while providing for affordable residential and commercial electrical capacity. I don't doubt that other utilities have a a similar strategy for achieving carbon neutral or carbon free generation.

My point is BEVs aren't the final answer, either, But we need to look at what's next because we know that crude oil is finite; the day of that loud sucking sound coming from oil wells will come. You pointed out the amount of minerals that go into a typical BEV battery. Once built, that battery will last 10-13 years and can be recycled, and hold off the end of oil a little while longer and drastically reduce the amount of carbon emissions
 

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… never mind, just decided I am not getting into any more incredibly complex issue debates on the forum, which usually end up in Google search result paste and clip wars.

Plus, pretty much everyone has their mind made up anyway. :)
 
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Yep, my FIL, who holds a PhD in polymer chemistry and is about as far left as a person can be, totally supports these facts.

A long time ago he took it on himself to do a lifecycle study of the relative carbon footprint of a Tesla model S versus our Suburban. No competition.

You definitely don't want to get a highly educated progressive who knows the facts about EV carbon footprints started at the dinner table...

BUT, the torque is pretty intoxicating... :)
Legit question outside of the battery a normal car still needs significant raw materials to make. Let's not pretend it's not an only BEV problem. There is no denying what that quote has merit not to mention the grid is woefully under prepared. We do need to start somewhere. That's why there are choices.
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