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Bad rear shocks can cause it.
Good point. And our shocks are notoriously shitty from jump. When the tires are replaced I'd do a rear shock upgrade as well.
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Much appreciated guys.
Yes they are inflated 38 as per door.
Funny thing is, with my sport car I had to argue with the dealership NOT to rotate, as I was doing it.
I never asked to rotate as I thought they would have done it, silly me.
I'm thinking of getting dedicated winter tires anyway, lets see tomorrow.
I did not think these were bad tires but not great either.
I had winter tires for the life of my previous Escape (about 12 years), and swapped the tires twice a year (got oil changed at the same time); not only do proper winter tires hold up much better in our northern climate, but you end up drastically extending the life of your tires since you're only using them for half of the year. When I got the Ranger, they tried to sell me a "rim & tire package" where they'll replace them 10x at no charge; I countered with asking for winter tires with winter rims instead, since they're a "will need" rather than a "might need" for us. In the end, I got what I wanted, and they threw in the package as well.
If you do get winter tires, get a set of winter rims for them; they generally look like shit, but they'll stand up to the rock salt a hell of a lot better than your "summer" rims. Also, it'll make changing them out much quicker and easier; you can do them at home, or if you bring it to a shop, you'll probably pay about 1/4 of the cost in labor to put on already-rim-mounted tires vs. having them swap which tires are on the rim. Mine are a shitty-looking matte grey, so I'm thinking about painting them black; the Escape had black ones, and they looked a hell of a lot better.
 

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I had winter tires for the life of my previous Escape (about 12 years), and swapped the tires twice a year (got oil changed at the same time); not only do proper winter tires hold up much better in our northern climate, but you end up drastically extending the life of your tires since you're only using them for half of the year. When I got the Ranger, they tried to sell me a "rim & tire package" where they'll replace them 10x at no charge; I countered with asking for winter tires with winter rims instead, since they're a "will need" rather than a "might need" for us. In the end, I got what I wanted, and they threw in the package as well.
If you do get winter tires, get a set of winter rims for them; they generally look like shit, but they'll stand up to the rock salt a hell of a lot better than your "summer" rims. Also, it'll make changing them out much quicker and easier; you can do them at home, or if you bring it to a shop, you'll probably pay about 1/4 of the cost in labor to put on already-rim-mounted tires vs. having them swap which tires are on the rim. Mine are a shitty-looking matte grey, so I'm thinking about painting them black; the Escape had black ones, and they looked a hell of a lot better.
just use the factory rims for the snow there ugly anyway and get a great set of 3 season rims ..

my 3 season rims and tires, the factory have blizzak's on them
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In Quebec it's the law to have winter tires so all my vehicles have dedicated set, rim/tires for summer/winter.
Well, except the 2007 Escape I hardly use in summer, only winters on that. Oh & sport car with 2 sets of of summer tires, sticky & much, much more stickier.
All joking aside, yr round vehicles had 2 sets rim/tires for summer/winter, so much easier.
First time I have issues with tires in 40 yrs. Not like I'm new to the game.
Your all confirming what I was thinking. :like:?
 

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What's with the Hankook hate? I'm at 47k on the factory tires. It's time to replace them but to get that far on an A/T tread was pretty impressive to me.
 


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What's with the Hankook hate? I'm at 47k on the factory tires. It's time to replace them but to get that far on an A/T tread was pretty impressive to me.
I have had several sets of Hankook tires. All been very good tires. I am currently at 18K on mine and they still look new.
 

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Are you doing a lot of towing or carrying a lot of weight in the bed? That combined with the janky rear dampers these trucks come with is a guarantee for weird tire wear issues.
 

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What's with the Hankook hate? I'm at 47k on the factory tires. It's time to replace them but to get that far on an A/T tread was pretty impressive to me.
They offer miniscule amounts of grip in the snow is my main complaint.

Lifespan of a tire is not my biggest concern. Doing it's job of gripping the road is.

But I also run 200AA summer tires on my sporty cars which are overkill in most people's opinion.
 
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HA! My bad.
Front tires are cupping, rears are extra used. Yes, if they would have been rotated properly I probably would not have noticed.
In Oct, front were 12, rear 10, in March front were 11, rear 7.
I just think the dealership should have mentioned something.
In winter I have 200lbs of rock dust in bed(Dec-Mar). Wife uses it to commute, if I'm 'lucky' I'll
use it as a truck once every 2 months on the weekend. Trailered twice only, 'short' distances.
Off for oil change Friday morning.
 
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So was at the dealer today for an oil change, they listened but did not seem to care.
So I mentioned I should get an alignment. So they told me it would cost X for the oil & whatnot. Well they charged me X + 150 ... They did the alignment. I know I'm bitchin about 1st world problem but I was expecting something, a little gesture. I mean, the Subaru dealership scraped a 50$ lip & freaked out, they even offered a free oil change, I did not even ask for it, I told them it was a cheap lip to protect the lower bumper.
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Folks,

Still new at this truck thing, I have the Hankook Dynapro atm tires all terrain , snowflake/3peak tires which came with the truck.
1 - Rear Front tires cupping, maybe Misaligned ? edit
2- Rear tires way more used then front.
3 - 35k km. All highway.

I moved front to back. I'm a little upset that the dealer never rotated my tires. I usually do the rotation but since I brought it to the dealer
I figured they would do it.
At a shop I was talking about the truck tires cupping(not which tires) as they were doing an alignment on my car & they told me, 'rear tires cupping?'.
They proceeded to tell me to inflate my tires to 50, already at 38. I mentioned the ride would be affected & they said yes but your tires will wear
properly.
So, I've been on this site for a while & have read the opposite for comfort but what about tire wear?
Guess I'll be going in for an alignment soon.
Was at dealer today for recall & mentioned my issue, they seemed to understand & now I get to talk to the service supervisor tomorrow, lets see where
this goes as I think they should have rotated my tires at the second oil change last march.
I have done my own oil changes. Like a dope, I did not rotate the tires (full size spare, wheel matched truck wheels, 295/70-17 Toyo Open Country Tires on 17x10 wheels, +55mm Offset) = cupping. I cannot blame the tires because I did not rotate the tires until 15,000miles on the tires. Aack. If there was a place that could buff the cups out that would be great (ya, I know reduced tread depth) As it is, I can drive under 65mph and no jiggle. I prefer running my tires 'till they are down to legal min tread depth. Not sure I will be able to tolerate the vibration induced speed limit Not my Daily Driver, so at least not a daily bother.
 

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Folks,

Still new at this truck thing, I have the Hankook Dynapro atm tires all terrain , snowflake/3peak tires which came with the truck.
1 - Rear Front tires cupping, maybe Misaligned ? edit
2- Rear tires way more used then front.
3 - 35k km. All highway.

I moved front to back. I'm a little upset that the dealer never rotated my tires. I usually do the rotation but since I brought it to the dealer
I figured they would do it.
At a shop I was talking about the truck tires cupping(not which tires) as they were doing an alignment on my car & they told me, 'rear tires cupping?'.
They proceeded to tell me to inflate my tires to 50, already at 38. I mentioned the ride would be affected & they said yes but your tires will wear
properly.
So, I've been on this site for a while & have read the opposite for comfort but what about tire wear?
Guess I'll be going in for an alignment soon.
Was at dealer today for recall & mentioned my issue, they seemed to understand & now I get to talk to the service supervisor tomorrow, lets see where
this goes as I think they should have rotated my tires at the second oil change last march.
25k.
Had to buy new tires!! Ňew Michelin.
 

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Much appreciated guys.
Yes they are inflated 38 as per door.
Funny thing is, with my sport car I had to argue with the dealership NOT to rotate, as I was doing it.
I never asked to rotate as I thought they would have done it, silly me.
I'm thinking of getting dedicated winter tires anyway, lets see tomorrow.
I did not think these were bad tires but not great either.
 

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My truck came with Bridge stones albeit it's a 2WD. Great ride and no issues @22k miles. Next set will Michelins . Unless I find another brand that Works better.
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