55 to 20 offset 2021 Ranger 16" wheels

[armoredpig]

You have excellent taste in wheels! Here are some pics of my +20 16x8 vectors (p265/75r16) with and without fender flares.

The +20 offset makes them just about flush with the stock fenders with no poke.

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[JACKSMYDOG]

I've noticed a trend of people not posting or ignoring wheel width on this forum.

Wheel width is important when talking offset and fitment.

I'd offer that wheel width has no bearing on offset or fitment, but I'd be happy to be corrected. Please explain how wheel width is a factor.

 

[Aonarch]

I'd offer that wheel width has no bearing on offset or fitment, but I'd be happy to be corrected. Please explain how wheel width is a factor.

Easiest way to think about it is the outside wheel lip, aka the actual rim of the wheel.

If a wheel is .5" wider than you current wheel and it has the same numerical offset, the wider wheel's rim will stick out further.

So if you do go for a wider wheel, you might need lower offset to clear the suspension components, or you might need higher offset to keep the outside rim more inboard.

https://blog.edgeautosport.com/tire-size-and-wheel-offset-decisions-decisions

Halfway through that article the author does an in-depth explanation.

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

Easiest way to think about it is the outside wheel lip, aka the actual rim of the wheel.

If a wheel is .5" wider than you current wheel and it has the same numerical offset, the wider wheels rim will stick out further.

The wheel lips will be farther from center, but the tire will be in the same position in relation to the truck.

Offset and tire width is all the info required to define tire poke. Wheel width is really only relevant to match tire to the rim.

 

[FirstNewTruck]

You have excellent taste in wheels! Here are some pics of my +20 16x8 vectors (p265/75r16) with and without fender flares.

The +20 offset makes them just about flush with the stock fenders with no poke.

Joseph, those Vectors look sweet on the Ranger. I definitely would rather have the black Vectors on my Ranger over the Bronco rims, but I'm starting to really get used to and like the Bronco wheels, and they were free with nice tires so I'm going to at least wear out a set of tires with them on. I drive close to 30K a year and use the truck for work travel so it will go fast. Thanks for the Vector pics, nice to see how they look on a ranger that color.

 

[veloci1]

You have excellent taste in wheels! Here are some pics of my +20 16x8 vectors (p265/75r16) with and without fender flares.

The +20 offset makes them just about flush with the stock fenders with no poke.

nice build. about one of the nicest set ups i have seen. all business!!!

 

[mgallo13]

The wheel lips will be farther from center, but the tire will be in the same position in relation to the truck.

Offset and tire width is all the info required to define tire poke. Wheel width is really only relevant to match tire to the rim.

I spent a lot of time researching this and ultimately put it into an spreadsheet to verify the math when I did mine. Last sentence I highlighted is incorrect IMHO, however you're spot on with the rest of your comment. The best way to look at it is in an EXTREME case as I'll go through below.

2 wheels: One is 8" wide +0 offset. One is 20" wide +0 offset. So they're both on the centerline.

offset is from centerline of the wheel, which you agree with, as seen below

Centerline will always be dead center on the rim.
Centerline on the 8" is 4" from the wheel lips
Centerline on the 20" is 10" from the wheel lips

the 20" wide wheel will stick: 10" - 4" = 6" further out from the mounting point both inward and outward.



in the case of my truck, I went from the stock wheel width of 7.5" (stock sport wheels) to my KMC Canyon's which were 8" wide - thus I gained 1/4" (1/2" divided by 2) more width from stock both outward from the fender and inward toward the suspension BEFORE an offset change. This was, quite literally offset by the offset change from +55 to +20

Hope this helps

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

I spent a lot of time researching this and ultimately put it into an spreadsheet to verify the math when I did mine. Last sentence I highlighted is incorrect IMHO, however you're spot on with the rest of your comment. The best way to look at it is in an EXTREME case as I'll go through below.

2 wheels: One is 8" wide +55 offset. One is 20" wide +55 offset.

offset is from centerline of the wheel, which you agree with, as seen below

Centerline will always be dead center on the rim.
Centerline on the 8" is 4" from the wheel lips
Centerline on the 20" is 10" from the wheel lips

the 20" wide wheel will stick: 10" - 4" = 6" further out from the mounting point both inward and outward.



in the case of my truck, I went from the stock wheel width of 7.5" (stock sport wheels) to my KMC Canyon's which were 8" wide - thus I gained 1/4" (1/2" divided by 2) more width from stock both outward from the fender and inward toward the suspension BEFORE an offset change. This was, quite literally offset by the offset change from +55 to +20

Hope this helps

Yes the rim lips move farther out, not the tire. The tire still sits in the exact same relationship with the truck whether the rim is 6 inches or 10. The tire is wider than the rim, and where fitment becomes and issue, not the rim lip.

Hypothetically a 17x20 rim wouldn't fit, but manufacturers don't make things which there is no market. Production wheels are made in useable sizes, and the only real relevance of rim width is rim to tire fitment and appearance.

 

[mgallo13]

Yes the rim lips move farther out, not the tire. The tire still sits in the exact same relationship with the truck whether the rim is 6 inches or 10. The tire is wider than the rim, and where fitment becomes and issue, not the rim lip.

Hypothetically a 17x20 rim wouldn't fit, but manufacturers don't make things which there is no market. Production wheels are made in useable sizes, and the only real relevance of rim width is rim to tire fitment and appearance.

The rim lip moves out and in towards the suspension. Yes, the centerline of the tire will be in the same place but both the outward and inner lips will move- further toward and eventually past the fender and eventually smashing into the suspension inward. See below, I wish this website existed while I was picking out my stuff- would have saved me a ton of time.

I used the stock ranger rim width with the sport package
First example: rim width stays the same but tire size changes.

Now, differing wheel widths ALL else the same:

you can clearly see how much closer the green "new" setup is to the suspension with the wider rim. In my prior post, the difference of rim width between stock and what I bought is the measurement of the gap between the orange/green rims. some guys are very particular about their wheels not sticking past the fender due to local laws and the OP was asking for advice.

So yes, wheel width doesn't change where the tire centerline is in relation to your truck as you stated, we both agree there. However, the rim width can cause clearance issues as well as desired fitment issues depending on how you change your offset to accomodate rim width.

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

The rim lip moves out and in towards the suspension. Yes, the centerline of the tire will be in the same place but both the outward and inner lips will move- further toward and eventually past the fender and eventually smashing into the suspension inward. See below, I wish this website existed while I was picking out my stuff- would have saved me a ton of time.

I used the stock ranger rim width with the sport package
First example: rim width stays the same but tire size changes.

Now, differing wheel widths ALL else the same:

you can clearly see how much closer the green "new" setup is to the suspension with the wider rim. In my prior post, the difference of rim width between stock and what I bought is the measurement of the gap between the orange/green rims. some guys are very particular about their wheels not sticking past the fender due to local laws and the OP was asking for advice.

So yes, wheel width doesn't change where the tire centerline is in relation to your truck as you stated, we both agree there. However, the rim width can cause clearance issues as well as desired fitment issues depending on how you change your offset to accomodate rim width.

Yes in theory you could design a rim that would create conflict on our Ranger, but I doubt you'll find a production rim that does.

This isn't a 75 year old bolt pattern used on hundreds of vehicles, with thousands of aftermarket wheels options. It's unique to a few vehicles, all of which are similar mid-size trucks.SUV. No one is making a 24 inch rim for our Rangers, no one is making a 15x12+75 rim.

In the real world, virtually all 17, 18, 19, & 20" 6x139.7 rims will fit our Rangers without rim fitment issues.

 

[FirstNewTruck]

Does anybody even make aftermarket wheels with a +55 offset? I looked for 16" wheels with +55 offset to upgrade my 2021 XL and I cannot find any. I want to stick with oem size if possible and offset but I'm not finding any wheels like that.

 

[D Fresh]

Yes in theory you could design a rim that would create conflict on our Ranger, but I doubt you'll find a production rim that does.

This isn't a 75 year old bolt pattern used on hundreds of vehicles, with thousands of aftermarket wheels options. It's unique to a few vehicles, all of which are similar mid-size trucks.SUV. No one is making a 24 inch rim for our Rangers, no one is making a 15x12+75 rim.

In the real world, virtually all 17, 18, 19, & 20" 6x139.7 rims will fit our Rangers without rim fitment issues.

You mean to tell me that this wheel...

https://m.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...anger+4X4&autoYear=2020&autoModClar=Supercrew

...would not get into the crashbars?

With a factory 265 tire, -18 offset, and 9.5 inch width it would poke roughly 3.6 inches more than stock.


I'm just a milkman, my math could be fuzzy. But I'm pretty sure that 3.6 inches puts you into the crashbars.

The tire is mounted to the wheel. As goes the wheel, so goes the tire. Am I missing something?

 

[mgallo13]

Yes in theory you could design a rim that would create conflict on our Ranger, but I doubt you'll find a production rim that does.

This isn't a 75 year old bolt pattern used on hundreds of vehicles, with thousands of aftermarket wheels options. It's unique to a few vehicles, all of which are similar mid-size trucks.SUV. No one is making a 24 inch rim for our Rangers, no one is making a 15x12+75 rim.

In the real world, virtually all 17, 18, 19, & 20" 6x139.7 rims will fit our Rangers without rim fitment issues.

Your entire point in your prior post was that rim width doesn't matter and I literally showed you a specific example of how EXACTLY it does. To top it off the OP has stated he's trying to stay as close to the stock offset of +55 as possible which is why in the first photo I put the 305 on the +55.

Feel free to click around https://www.willtheyfit.com/

At no point have I brought up bolt pattern, nor did the OP so iI'm not real sure how thats relevant to the original comment.

I am really not sure of any other way to say this at this point and would rather just let it be.

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

You mean to tell me that this wheel...

https://m.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...anger+4X4&autoYear=2020&autoModClar=Supercrew

...would not get into the crashbars?

With a factory 265 tire, -18 offset, and 9.5 inch width it would poke roughly 3.6 inches more than stock.


I'm just a milkman, my math could be fuzzy. But I'm pretty sure that 3.6 inches puts you into the crashbars.

The tire is mounted to the wheel. As goes the wheel, so goes the tire. Am I missing something?

The discussion is the rim lip hitting the suspension, not the tires hitting the crash bar.

 

[mgallo13]

Does anybody even make aftermarket wheels with a +55 offset? I looked for 16" wheels with +55 offset to upgrade my 2021 XL and I cannot find any. I want to stick with oem size if possible and offset but I'm not finding any wheels like that.

not a ton of options, but they are out there. Method has some options between +35 and +45 which is closest to what you're looking for

quick google search yielded the below:

https://www.customwheeloffset.com/store/wheels/?sort=instock&offset=55&bolt=6x5.5,6x139.7&saleToggle=0&qdToggle=0&suspension=Leveling Kit&mod=Minor Plastic Trimming&rub=No rubbing or scrubbing

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