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Some people argue its cause its not a performance vehicle or "you dont need it" and tbh thats some BS. Knowing what your usual temps/#'s are can help you find out if theres a problem, before it becomes a bigger problem.
The ECU is constantly monitoring every sensor on the vehicle. There is an acceptable operating range of values for each of the sensors. If the values start to stray outside of this range, it will cue a diagnostic code and a CEL. There's no point in cluttering up the dash with all of this information. I would never say that the ECU diagnostics is perfect, but it is far better than the average driver trying to make sense of a bunch of gauges.
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I find it baffling that the entire right side display only shows things that are already displayed on the Sync screen. It would be relatively easy to allow that display to be configured to show boost, volts, oil temp, oil pressure, cylinder head temp, air fuel ratio. Things that are available in the standard display that is between the tach and speedo of the Ecoboost Mustang. The optional all digital display can be configured show all that info digitally, as analog gauge representations or not at all. I would have thought that for the Lariat they would have taken the same approach.

While it is true the ECU monitors these things but it is invaluable being able to see changes over time that indicates a pending problem that you can address before the ECU reports a problem that potentially leaves you stranded.
 

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The ECU is constantly monitoring every sensor on the vehicle. There is an acceptable operating range of values for each of the sensors. If the values start to stray outside of this range, it will cue a diagnostic code and a CEL. There's no point in cluttering up the dash with all of this information. I would never say that the ECU diagnostics is perfect, but it is far better than the average driver trying to make sense of a bunch of gauges.
Not sure how much better tech has gotten, but my lightning would have a vacuum leak every now and then due to hoses becoming brittle and leaking etc (or the pcv hoses coming loose off the valve covers). It would occur and the truck would act really funky, then finally throw a code (PO171, which tbh isnt all that helpful and you need a tuner to see it). One way i found out if theres an issue before all that started happening was monitoring my short term fuel trims 1&2. At throttle or WOT they should be equal and if not, you got an issue you can solve before it starts becoming worse.

To me i like my dash cluttered with this stuff cause it gives me an idea of what my normal temps or data is, and even if the car throws a light, i can much easily find out what the issue is by the gauges or even before the light comes on. Id appreciate if they at least gave us an option to check on them in the display, not like everyone has my mindset and thats fine, but at least something other than just water temp. Its just weird how the Ranger gets shafted for the usual gauges you get in older gen cars and even to same year f150s.

Too bad they dont make A pillar pods for the Rangers, at least ones that hold more than 1. I filled up my lightning with gauges because race truck, but this might make some people have an aneurysm lol.

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I like people to pay attention to the road. ?‍♂
If people cant handle stuff on the display and the road at the same time then maybe they shouldnt be driving.
But passive aggressiveness aside, not like anyone with gauges is just eyeballing them 24/7, theyre just something to check on every now and then. Do you violently lose control of your truck checking your speed or radio?
 


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If people cant handle stuff on the display and the road at the same time then maybe they shouldnt be driving.
But passive aggressiveness aside, not like anyone with gauges is just eyeballing them 24/7, theyre just something to check on every now and then. Do you violently lose control of your truck checking your speed or radio?
You can't have it both ways--either you're checking the gauges intently enough to notice minute discrepencies between two of them at all different throttle positions or you aren't. I don't personally "check" the radio routinely, and glancing at the speed indicator is one thing, not 25 things, and I don't do it until I'm driving at a steady state. If you aren't actually checking and analyzing the gauges they're a fashion statement, not a necessity. The idea that distracted driving kills people is pretty well proven at this time, and adding more stuff for people to look at on the dashboard when they should be paying attention to the road is...distraction. But I know: this is lake wobegon, where all the drivers are above average.
 

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according to the lawmakers....distractive driving is a thing.
pretty soon there wont be and touch controls in our cars if they have their way. there wont be any gauges to look at. everything will be out of our control.
can you blame them really? there's some stupid shit happening behind the wheel constantly. including glancing at a single gage at the absolute wrong moment.
you cant police only part of it, so you make everything illegal.
I personally think its the Driver thats the issue, not the distractions. (This isnt directed at anyone here)
You can make something idiot proof, only for someone to find a way to break it. Just my 2 cents.
You can have 0 gauges or anything in the car, but still have someone text & drive instead or drive drunk.

You can't have it both ways--either you're checking the gauges intently enough to notice minute discrepencies between two of them at all different throttle positions or you aren't. I don't personally "check" the radio routinely, and glancing at the speed indicator is one thing, not 25 things, and I don't do it until I'm driving at a steady state. If you aren't actually checking and analyzing the gauges they're a fashion statement, not a necessity. The idea that distracted driving kills people is pretty well proven at this time, and adding more stuff for people to look at on the dashboard when they should be paying attention to the road is...distraction. But I know: this is lake wobegon, where all the drivers are above average.
You dont check "25 things at once", or all the gauges at once. You glance at one you care to know about just like you would glance at the spedometer or tach. If after a week or 2 (just an example) of driving you notice your oil temp is like a 150-180 range on cold-hot weather, and then you notice its 210, maybe somethings amiss. You arent glued to it like a book, thats just silly. Also for my previous reference, thats off my SCT monitor which is on the window and on an empty road, noone should be doing WOT runs in traffic.

But i do agree with you in a general sense, most people are flat out really dumb and dont need anymore distractions, i see it all the time on the road, especially on my bike where you need to be 100% on the ball at all times. However, when stuff clears, even on my bike, i still cycle through and see what my temps are at a stop light.

Still though, the F150s have some basic temp gauges and i assume there are way more f150s than rangers on the road, and not like theres a pandemic of f150s crashing solely because of that.
 

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I get your point, but checking gauges doesnt erase my peripheral or distract me enough that i wont notice these things, but thats me and im generally very paranoid if thats the right term. I have to know whos behind me, front of me, side of me etc, and also what my gauges say. I guess im not a relaxed person haha.
Of course im not invincible and mistakes no matter what i do will happen. However, despite my sexual desire for gauges, never had an accident happen to me. (Well technically one for getting too confident in power sliding my Lightning, but i only hurt a curb and my ego)
 

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I get your point, but checking gauges doesnt erase my peripheral or distract me enough that i wont notice these things, but thats me and im generally very paranoid if thats the right term. I have to know whos behind me, front of me, side of me etc, and also what my gauges say. I guess im not a relaxed person haha.
Of course im not invincible and mistakes no matter what i do will happen. However, despite my sexual desire for gauges, never had an accident happen to me. (Well technically one for getting too confident in power sliding my Lightning, but i only hurt a curb and my ego)
The problem is that human beings really, really suck at 1) evaluating risk/benefit and 2) evaluating their own performance. Maybe you're right, but it's just as likely that you're wrong and unaware of it. I doubt that many people drive around thinking "man, I really suck at this", but we still see a crapton of avoidable accidents and people in other cars that we think suck at driving; the outcomes simply don't match the expectations. It's really easy to overweight that one time that a gauge was useful, and underweight (or be completely oblivious to) all the rest of the time that a gauge was an unnecessary distraction (however minor that distraction may be; they're cumulative).

I don't actually expect to change any minds, but maybe it's food for thought.
 

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The problem is that human beings really, really suck at 1) evaluating risk/benefit and 2) evaluating their own performance. Maybe you're right, but it's just as likely that you're wrong and unaware of it. I doubt that many people drive around thinking "man, I really suck at this", but we still see a crapton of avoidable accidents and people in other cars that we think suck at driving; the outcomes simply don't match the expectations. It's really easy to overweight that one time that a gauge was useful, and underweight (or be completely oblivious to) all the rest of the time that a gauge was an unnecessary distraction (however minor that distraction may be; they're cumulative).

I don't actually expect to change any minds, but maybe it's food for thought.
I dont disagree with any of that.
Its up to the individual person to know when to check, and not to.
Checking during busy hwy traffic, probably not the best idea.

Anyway, just repeating myself at this point, i dont feel like either of us are wrong in any aspect. I just would like if ford at least had an option to cycle through the display to check if the driver wanted so (not necessarily during driving), kinda like you have an option to check tire pressure (very nice feature) or fuel economy.
 

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Anyway, just repeating myself at this point, i dont feel like either of us are wrong in any aspect. I just would like if ford at least had an option to cycle through the display to check if the driver wanted so (not necessarily during driving), kinda like you have an option to check tire pressure (very nice feature) or fuel economy.
I agree it would suck less if the right side of the lariat dashboard were actually useful. :)
 

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I agree it would suck less if the right side of the lariat dashboard were actually useful. :)
Main reason why i opted for the XLT, i did not like the Lariat dash, plus was a bit cheaper.
 

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You can't have it both ways--either you're checking the gauges intently enough to notice minute discrepencies between two of them at all different throttle positions or you aren't.
I have been driving for over 50 years and all my vehicles came with a full compliment of gauges or I added them. I don't have to take my eyes off the road for my peripheral vision to detect that a gauge is reading out of the ordinary. It is then that I look and make a determination if something is wrong. I would like to think everyone that has gauges isn't just starring at them as they drive down the road.
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