Stellantis says "Park Somewhere Else..."

[Chris M]

Bring your fire extinguisher!

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifesty...-over-fire-risk-owners-warned-not-park-inside

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[AzScorpion]

I guess Ford isn't the only one with issues and recalls. lol Sad that almost all the auto makers now are just hit or miss if you're going to get a good vehicle or if it'll catch on fire and burn you or your house down!

 

[AzScorpion]

So park your Jeep and don't drive it yet you still have to pay for it while we figure out where we messed up. For many I'm sure this is their only transportation. Then, how are they supposed to get their Jeeps to the dealers? Is Jeep paying for all these to be towed which they should seeing as they're a fire hazard.

The automaker said it has not yet finalized a repair but expects a remedy to be available by July.

Once the fix is ready, affected owners will be notified by mail and instructed on how to schedule repairs at their local dealership.

I wonder if their EVs/PHEVs are affected.

 

[LaBalbe]

I guess Ford isn't the only one with issues and recalls. lol Sad that almost all the auto makers now are just hit or miss if you're going to get a good vehicle or if it'll catch on fire and burn you or your house down!

Yeah, I was going to say that while Ford may have a record number of recalls in the past few years, at least I haven't heard of them spontaneously combusting and burning down your home and your family as well.

 

[Trustable]

Yeah, I was going to say that while Ford may have a record number of recalls in the past few years, at least I haven't heard of them spontaneously combusting and burning down your home and your family as well.

I think the ford engine block heater recall is basically about that. I know there was a recall about cracked injectors a while ago on some fords causing fuel leaks which could start a fire if the fuel hit an ignition source.

pretty crazy all the codes we have to abide by if you diy or hire someone to do electrical work in your house, but auto companies can just throw bad electrical wiring in a car and say “oh yeah just don’t park in garage our bad”

 

[Fordup]

Yeah, I was going to say that while Ford may have a record number of recalls in the past few years, at least I haven't heard of them spontaneously combusting and burning down your home and your family as well.

Caught this one early https://insideevs.com/news/658422/ford-f150-lightning-recall-documents-reveal-cause/
Only burned down a couple houses.

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

There was a possible fire issue with my 4g 4.0L Might have been brake fluid/exhaust manifold related, might have been electrical - I don’t recall (yep, heard is as I typed it ) but there were some house fires because of it.

There are a number of Building Code requirements to keep CO from vehicle exhaust out of our homes with attached garages. Maybe we should be looking deeper at fire suppression as well. It wouldn’t necessarily have to be full-on sprinkler systems but could be the use of non-combustible materials or having fire-breaks incorporated into the building.

That fire-rated door to the garage isn’t enough when it becomes fully involved or if your EV battery is melting into the earth’s core.

Of course, the auto manufacturers are the problem, not the garage.

 

[ScarzRanger21(2.0)]

I think the ford engine block heater recall is basically about that. I know there was a recall about cracked injectors a while ago on some fords causing fuel leaks which could start a fire if the fuel hit an ignition source.

pretty crazy all the codes we have to abide by if you diy or hire someone to do electrical work in your house, but auto companies can just throw bad electrical wiring in a car and say “oh yeah just don’t park in garage our bad”

You’d be surprised how many certified electricians still don’t know what they’re doing… Some of the code violations I see at work are absolutely appalling.

I think the same goes for auto manufacturers. Just because you know the codes, it doesn’t mean you’re following them. People get complacent and take shortcuts, or just don’t think about what they’re doing. This leads to poor workmanship and problems that could’ve been avoided.

The other side is just because you can pass a test that says you’re certified, it doesn’t mean you know how to apply that knowledge in the field. I’ve worked with plenty of “journeyman” electricians that couldn’t tell their ass from their elbow. Or they were just lazy and didn’t put effort into their work. If there was a shortcut or way to save their company a few bucks, they’d knowingly violate every code in the book and try to hide it.

I think the latter is what we’re seeing with auto manufacturers. They’re trying to save money so they’re using cheaper material, hiring cheaper/inexperienced techs, and lowering overall standards to get more units out of the factory. They’re more focused on quantity than quality. At least that what it seems like lately. They don’t care if 1000 trucks they built have problems, the other 5000 they sold didn’t. At the end of the day, they’re making money and they don’t care.

 

[Trustable]

You’d be surprised how many certified electricians still don’t know what they’re doing… Some of the code violations I see at work are absolutely appalling.

I think the same goes for auto manufacturers. Just because you know the codes, it doesn’t mean you’re following them. People get complacent and take shortcuts, or just don’t think about what they’re doing. This leads to poor workmanship and problems that could’ve been avoided.

The other side is just because you can pass a test that says you’re certified, it doesn’t mean you know how to apply that knowledge in the field. I’ve worked with plenty of “journeyman” electricians that couldn’t tell their ass from their elbow. Or they were just lazy and didn’t put effort into their work. If there was a shortcut or way to save their company a few bucks, they’d knowingly violate every code in the book and try to hide it.

I think the latter is what we’re seeing with auto manufacturers. They’re trying to save money so they’re using cheaper material, hiring cheaper/inexperienced techs, and lowering overall standards to get more units out of the factory. They’re more focused on quantity than quality. At least that what it seems like lately. They don’t care if 1000 trucks they built have problems, the other 5000 they sold didn’t. At the end of the day, they’re making money and they don’t care.

Very true!

 

[AzScorpion]

There was a possible fire issue with my 4g 4.0L Might have been brake fluid/exhaust manifold related, might have been electrical - I don’t recall (yep, heard is as I typed it ) but there were some house fires because of it.

There are a number of Building Code requirements to keep CO from vehicle exhaust out of our homes with attached garages. Maybe we should be looking deeper at fire suppression as well. It wouldn’t necessarily have to be full-on sprinkler systems but could be the use of non-combustible materials or having fire-breaks incorporated into the building.

That fire-rated door to the garage isn’t enough when it becomes fully involved or if your EV battery is melting into the earth’s core.

Of course, the auto manufacturers are the problem, not the garage.

Here in AZ our water heaters are in the garage and all the garages have vents for the CO. I was sick of getting dust in my gargle through them so I cut up a furnace filter and fit it into each of the vents. Then I change out the filters when I change out my furnace ones using those in the vents. Not sure if/why other states don't do this as it would be an easy retro in most garages to do this.

As far as fires go there are only 2 states (CA & MD) that make it mandatory to have a full sprinkler system in their new builds. As EVs get more popular over the years I can see more states/insurance companies (trying) to mandating this in garages which will need the dry chemical or a carbon dioxide extinguisher.

Garage vents

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