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Comes with standard 3.5L EcoBoost® V6 engine and AWD.
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I love the concept and design. The fact is, the original transit was on my list as options for my vehicle because I could easily fit a motorcycle inside it and build it into something I could sleep inside at the racetrack. But this... I'm all over this.
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Most options, yeah. But the factory lift, wider track, and larger tires are also not options otherwise offered for normal Transits. Though they are all things the aftermarket has taken care of for a while now, same with the vent fan. Everything else offered are already available options, just complied into a single package though.
The only thing on the Trail worth it for our rig might be that grille with the integrated marker lights. And hopefully I can grab one from the parts bin once they come out.

As far as no true 4WD offering. We don't plan on going that crazy with ours anyways. And most of the time you're probably going to be limited by the ground clearance and angles. Especially with an EL wheelbase one w/ the ~4ft rear overhang like ours will be. So a slight lift, larger and more aggressive tires, Fords amazing AWD system, and the rear limited slip axle will do just fine.
It's also why we plan on keeping the Ranger around to be the deeper exploration rig and support vehicle.
Carry a really good jack, maxtrax, and straps/shackles of appropriate strength. These things get stuck so easy with that 1WD.
 

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People who NEED shit like that aren't buying something with as high of a CG as these behemoths. That being said, these big 4x4 vans seem to have a sizable market. It's cool ford's getting into the game.
A lot of makers are taking existing SUV models and then marketing them for some degree of off road use by raising ground clearance, larger tires, etc. Subaru, Honda, KIA, Toyota, etc. So I agree there is a market for "more rugged" vans as well - I have to believe Ford does some legit marketing research and understands it's target market - which is not the rugged bad *ss folks that need to go to the end of the trail and beyond, I see those Sprinters, Dodge and other vans frequently in campgrounds have to assume they for the most part meet the owners needs.
 

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A lot of makers are taking existing SUV models and then marketing them for some degree of off road use by raising ground clearance, larger tires, etc. Subaru, Honda, KIA, Toyota, etc. So I agree there is a market for "more rugged" vans as well - I have to believe Ford does some legit marketing research and understands it's target market - which is not the rugged bad *ss folks that need to go to the end of the trail and beyond, I see those Sprinters, Dodge and other vans frequently in campgrounds have to assume they for the most part meet the owners needs.
Subarus been doing it since the 90s. For the majority of its existence the outback was literally the exact same car as a legacy but with taller struts, subframe spacers, and bigger foglights. I've had subies on 30" tires in places 4x4 trucks had trouble with lol.
 

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Carry a really good jack, maxtrax, and straps/shackles of appropriate strength. These things get stuck so easy with that 1WD.
We already have all that stuff. And like I said, ours won't be going anywhere more intense than forest roads really.
Sounds like maybe your expected uses are not the same as ours. Heck, I've barely had to use the 4WD system on the Ranger most of the places we've gone, if that tells you what kind of adventuring we're in to doing. So we're definitely not hardcore people. Plus, this will be our house, so we're certainly not going to be taking any risks. If it starts getting sketchy, just park the van, set up a base, and continue on with the truck. Doesn't need to be much more complicated than that.
 


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Subarus been doing it since the 90s. For the majority of its existence the outback was literally the exact same car as a legacy but with taller struts, subframe spacers, and bigger foglights. I've had subies on 30" tires in places 4x4 trucks had trouble with lol.
Some time back I recall someone posted about taking their Ranger up the 4wd to Crystal Mill near marble CO, it is worth seeing should you be out this way, below taken from offroadpro re the road:

If you plan to go to Crystal Mill anytime soon, be warned: you’re in for a dusty, bumpy ride. The trail is challenging even for experienced drivers. Also, you’ll need a high-clearance vehicle.

Past the mill itself are the remains of the old mining town, and there are several cabins people live in(seasonal) along with a small general store run by a nice lady in her 60s, a stream refrigs beverages (no electricity) and you can buy snacks, etc. Wife and I ran into the lady returning from a restocking run - in her Honda CR-V, I asked isn't it tricky going up that road, she laughed and replied she goes slow and traverses the bad sections and has been doing that for yrs.

Wife and I hiked up as we were fishing the crystal river - this was maybe 10 yrs back and the road was busy then, can't imagine the masses of vehicles on it nowadays. The mill itself was used to compress air to power mining equipment.

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Some time back I recall someone posted about taking their Ranger up the 4wd to Crystal Mill near marble CO, it is worth seeing should you be out this way, below taken from offroadpro re the road:

If you plan to go to Crystal Mill anytime soon, be warned: you’re in for a dusty, bumpy ride. The trail is challenging even for experienced drivers. Also, you’ll need a high-clearance vehicle.

Past the mill itself are the remains of the old mining town, and there are several cabins people live in(seasonal) along with a small general store run by a nice lady in her 60s, a stream refrigs beverages (no electricity) and you can buy snacks, etc. Wife and I ran into the lady returning from a restocking run - in her Honda CR-V, I asked isn't it tricky going up that road, she laughed and replied she goes slow and traverses the bad sections and has been doing that for yrs.

Wife and I hiked up as we were fishing the crystal river - this was maybe 10 yrs back and the road was busy then, can't imagine the masses of vehicles on it nowadays. The mill itself was used to compress air to power mining equipment.

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That's awesome. Were robbed of a lot of cool shit like that on the east coast, especially the northeast.

No big sky, no big mountains, weak wheeling opportunities... it sucks.

At least we get red hot dogs and coffee milk.. I guess.
 

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Just dont know if I could do a FWD biased AWD system. RWD or die over here. Old Quigley E350 with a Dana 60 all day. And a 7.3 PSD to top it off.
 

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It's ok if you.dont plan to go past a dirt road. The Transit Van has a weak Unibody design. Evan as a work van it struggles.
 

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It's ok if you.dont plan to go past a dirt road. The Transit Van has a weak Unibody design. Evan as a work van it struggles.
If that's the case I'd lean towards the Transit Connect. I think with some clever DIY packaging it could work and won't cost $70k like this thing. More weight over the drive wheels, better mpg, better driver and more of a stealth van too. I know most won't want a Connect but I always liked them.
 

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If that's the case I'd lean towards the Transit Connect. I think with some clever DIY packaging it could work and won't cost $70k like this thing. More weight over the drive wheels, better mpg, better driver and more of a stealth van too. I know most won't want a Connect but I always liked them.
Much smaller and won't go past a dirt road either. I see no use for it. Maybe as a small work vehicle, but that's it
 

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Mercedes Sprinter's have sold well and use a unibody design, so next up I believe was the Dodge Promaster, so now Ford has an offering in the space and with arguably a better drive train than the others. I think most who buy them are not intending to use for rugged off road use, but there are plenty of places (campgrounds, eg) with dirt roads where these things do just fine.
Sprinter's are pricey, some don't care for Dodge products so Ford's product might succeed - despite the uneven window line that some found unappealing .
Everyone and their brothers, distant relatives, genetic lineage and so on is going off road these days so there are choices to fit the degree of off road escapades .
 

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Much smaller and won't go past a dirt road either. I see no use for it. Maybe as a small work vehicle, but that's it
Like I said not for everyone. I think I could put together a cool one but it wouldn't be any kind of off-road van.
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